poker mentors

[ariston]

I wasn't meaning to disparage you in anyway and I didn't mean to put you down. What I was trying to say is you can never read to much on this game. I think there is a thread on here somewhere with links to many blondites blogs- you can learn so much from reading them and they arent all just poker so are good reads as well. Good luck with improving your game.

[Claw75]

I do understand what you are saying, the point is we are all individuals who have our own preferred style of learning, and reading stuff is not particularly helpful for me.

[roverthtaeh]

I do understand what you are saying, the point is we are all individuals who have our own preferred style of learning, and reading stuff is not particularly helpful for me.

Just a thought.... are there any poker audio books?

[Dingdell]

perhaps I'm not putting myself across very well here.  i'm not talking about someone to teach me to play to poker, I'm looking for a resource where I can get some commentary on my game, as I play it, from a good player who can give me constructive feedback.  Thanks for all the advice, and I respectfully take on board Ariston's view that I'm probably getting well ahead of myself here.  I guess I'll stick to the magazines and the occasional post in the hand analysis thread for now.

I find the most helpful thing is other players commenting on my play - but that is live play. I ask people I have played with for help with how I should have played a hand - Tighty at Luton for example has told me my tells and all sorts of really helpful things. Getting a live poker buddy is really helpful.

If it's on line help you need I think Ironside has used a site which really helped with his omaha (but obviously not any play involving AK) - perhaps he can point you in the right direction.

Tracey

[byronkincaid]

www.3-bet.net

rates start at $100 per hour for 1/2 and below players.

[kvnstv]

I got Wilson softwares turbo seven card stud software with player point's from a poker site. Made a huge difference to my stud game, not sure what the Hold'em versions are like. 

[thetank]

Wilson's TTH is well decent for limit holdem

However, it has limited uses for NL and tourneys

[booder]

    Thomas

[londonpokergirl]

Claire are you wanting live play help or online help?

[Royal Flush]

Claire are you wanting live play help or online help?

Poker help i believe.

[londonpokergirl]

Claire are you wanting live play help or online help?

Poker help i believe.

no shit sherlock!

[booder]

Claire are you wanting live play help or online help?

Poker help i believe.

no shit sherlock!

                 you tell him mel

[doubleup]

I do understand what you are saying, the point is we are all individuals who have our own preferred style of learning, and reading stuff is not particularly helpful for me.

Reading is the easiest way to get new ideas but it can be a bit of a chore and I agree that it can be sometimes unhelpful .  I read Theory of Poker and it actually adversely affected my game for a long time as I became over concerned with avoiding mistakes.  I now realise that optimal play( which I'm not anywhere near) can only be achieved by making mistakes and this is ok as long as your opponents make more or bigger mistakes.

I'm not a great fan of posting hands as it is very rare that anything very insightful comes from them.  What would be useful is a forum where ppl post what they've read, seen or thought about, why they think it's useful and ask others to comment.  

Ultimately you will only improve by analysing what you are doing and watching (or reading about!) what successfull players do.  It would be great if someone could sit down with you for an hour or two and transform your game, but that isn't going to happen.  I'm not even sure that good players could precisely explain their decisions in real time as a lot of decisions are instinctive and based on experience.

[Ginger]

I am also like you Claw, I find active learning far easier than from study. I had a poker mentor about 2 years ago, and at the time I saw amazing results. But, and this is a BIG but, try to find someone that has a style similar to yourself or it can seem far too alien, you'll find yourself not listening to most of what they advise.

Take for instance myself and James, he without doubt is a FAR better player than me (no laughing now!) but his style is poles apart from my own. I just can't bring myself to pull off some of the moves he tells me to, and often his teaching style just gets us stroppy with each other (in other words I get huffy if it doesn't work) I am now starting to believe that some people have a natural talent for the game, find reading other players/working out others holdings very quickly as second nature, but someone like myself is always going to struggle with it.

Sometimes it can help to go back to basics again, and stop trying to play 'clever', the saying about not being able to bluff a bad player is certainly true so could you be playing at the wrong level for your game? example: can you remember when I joined the Scottish Dave experiment to rebuild my depleted bankroll? Well, I went back to $5 stt's and sat there banging my head against a brick wall for hours, not understanding why I was not placing in nearly enough of them. James sat me down and we talked all through it, went over what bankroll I had (over far too many sites) and he suggested moving consolidating and moving to the $25 stt's  (I use to play 25 -50) I had JUST enough to cover it so thought it was worth a shot.

The results were instant! I started getting the results that I expected (even better TBH) and I didn't feel like a total failure for the first time in too long.... Hooorah!  My point is, the players I was with just didn't get me, and I certainly didn't understand their play at all, you would think that bad players are easy to clean up against however, that isn't always the case.

I know how frustrating it can be to know you are able, but not get the results. I've seen your game and KNOW that you'll get there, just be patient.


Good Luck!

xx

Ps, just thought of something else, don't take advise from too many different people, this can do more harm than good IMO (it did for me anyway)

[Ginger]

It would be great if someone could sit down with you for an hour or two and transform your game, but that isn't going to happen.  I'm not even sure that good players could precisely explain their decisions in real time as a lot of decisions are instinctive and based on experience.

I couldn't agree more!