I 'm pretty sure I'm beat, should I lay it down? ( by the way I get beat, )

[Newmanseye]

Now I'm sure this guy flops a set, I just find its a bit too cheap to see his cards considering the cash in the middle, should I have saved my self the money?

Real Money Ring Game
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
Queen High 10474987-63893 Holdem No Limit $0.10/$0.20
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Hand Start.
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 1 : DONMAJOR has $5
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 2 : VanSmak10 has $27
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 3 : jackblack69 has $58.50
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 4 : PokerMadam has $10
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 5 : slyslysly has $7.60
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 6 : stick6969 has $40.22
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 7 : Sharky128 has $5.96
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 8 : newmanseye1 has $42.19
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : Seat 9 : Actor UK has $37.39
[Oct 24 23:01:41] : stick6969 is the dealer.
[Oct 24 23:01:42] : Sharky128 posted small blind.
[Oct 24 23:01:43] : newmanseye1 posted big blind.
[Oct 24 23:01:46] : PokerMadam posted big blind.
[Oct 24 23:01:46] : Game [63893] started with 7 players.
[Oct 24 23:01:46] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Oct 24 23:01:46] : Seat 8 : newmanseye1 has
[Oct 24 23:01:51] : Actor UK folded.
[Oct 24 23:01:52] : jackblack69 folded.
[Oct 24 23:01:54] : PokerMadam checked.
[Oct 24 23:01:58] : slyslysly called $0.20
[Oct 24 23:01:58] : stick6969 folded.
[Oct 24 23:02:00] : Sharky128 called $0.10
[Oct 24 23:02:05] : newmanseye1 raised $1
[Oct 24 23:02:06] : PokerMadam called $1
[Oct 24 23:02:07] : slyslysly called $1
[Oct 24 23:02:13] : Sharky128 called $1
[Oct 24 23:02:13] : Dealing flop.
[Oct 24 23:02:13] : Board cards [ ]
[Oct 24 23:02:16] : Sharky128 checked.
[Oct 24 23:02:22] : newmanseye1 bet $5
[Oct 24 23:02:25] : PokerMadam called $5 and raised $3.80 and is All-in
[Oct 24 23:02:25] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
[Oct 24 23:02:28] : slyslysly folded.
[Oct 24 23:02:28] : Sharky128 folded.
[Oct 24 23:02:30] : newmanseye1 called $3.80
[Oct 24 23:02:30] : Showdown!
[Oct 24 23:02:30] : Seat 8 : newmanseye1 has
[Oct 24 23:02:32] : Seat 4 : PokerMadam has
[Oct 24 23:02:32] : Seat 8 : newmanseye1 has
[Oct 24 23:02:38] : Board cards [ ]
[Oct 24 23:02:38] : Seat 4 : PokerMadam has
[Oct 24 23:02:38] : PokerMadam has Full House : full of
[Oct 24 23:02:38] : Seat 8 : newmanseye1 has
[Oct 24 23:02:38] : newmanseye1 has Two Pair: Kings and
[Oct 24 23:02:38] : PokerMadam wins $21.28 with Full House : full of
[Oct 24 23:02:41] : newmanseye1 : nh
[Oct 24 23:02:48] : Hand is over.


The call seemed pointless afterwards although i have 4 outs, Soem opinions would be appreciated.

[Wardonkey]

You can't pass for $3.80....

[Newmanseye]

You can't pass for $3.80....

True mate, although, do you see anyway of confirming you are beat without committing myself to the pot?

I know cant.

[Wardonkey]

You can't pass for $3.80....

True mate, although, do you see anyway of confirming you are beat without committing myself to the pot?

I know cant.

Not against a $9 stack...

[Newmanseye]

Fair enough, I know I played the hand about as well as it could be played, i just like to try and find ways of reducing the loss, cheers for the input war.

[LeKnave]

I'm not sure there is enought information to deduce that your 'definately' beat..

There are a lot more hands he would push with here that you have beat then ones that you are losing to.

Its a definate call.

[JungleCat03]

Unless you want to pay $3.80 for a super lag image you should fold.

I can't see a 9$ stack getting their stack into the 9$ pot without at least trips, maybe a full house or at worst Aces.

I'd consider folding a 6 here. Even if you have 66 for quads,  hands like 35c , 45c, 34c have lots of out. Nearly all pocket pairs have some outs too.

Very risky call $3.80 into an 18$ pot. You need to tighten up mate!

Insta-pass.

[scotty2hatty]

Jungle Cat, surely you are not being serious?

You can consider the fold if he the oppo is first to act and pushes but in this instance i think you have to call. Next time this happens the guy might simply have a worse overpair.

[ifm]

Unless you want to pay $3.80 for a super lag image you should fold.

I can't see a 9$ stack getting their stack into the 9$ pot without at least trips, maybe a full house or at worst Aces.

I'd consider folding a 6 here. Even if you have 66 for quads,  hands like 35c , 45c, 34c have lots of out. Nearly all pocket pairs have some outs too.

Very risky call $3.80 into an 18$ pot. You need to tighten up mate!

Insta-pass.

 

[JungleCat03]

Jungle Cat, surely you are not being serious?

You can consider the fold if he the oppo is first to act and pushes but in this instance i think you have to call. Next time this happens the guy might simply have a worse overpair.

Sorry scott. Yeh wasn't 100% serious.

I think he should probably call with quads, as long as he has position on the guy who's allin.

 

[SupaMonkey]

Billy, surely the guy puts you in with 77+ here (maybe even with 22+).

[boldie]

This is the problem with micro stakes poker. Betsizes don't mean anything as they are not respected. everything is "oh it's only a dollar so I'll call" preflop.
you raise 10x the BB pre-flop, which by all account is a respectable raise...It would make me think twice before calling with pocket twos')
Then you raise 50 BB's when the flop comes down. it's a potsize of 50BB so a potsize bet but still  a very big pot when playing for these stakes.

You feel you can't fold for the extra $3.80 because it doesn't mean enough to you as it's only 2£ but you know you're behind. And you probably thought to a 6 so you thought the only out you had was another K. OK he has pocket 2's soa  6 would help you aswell BUT considering that he might have had a six you are a massive dog. In a higher stakes game you probably would have folded.

It's a respect for money thing that is missing at these stakes. and that's why I think they are to be avoided at all costs. Use your 42$ and play either a 50$ cash game (4$ raises (8x BB so less than your pre-flop 10x BB raise) tend to be respected there pre-flop) or play small STT's.

[Newmanseye]

I know this seems like a daft question, I just wondered if it was worth passing to save the money, although in retrospect he would push with any PP of 7 and above. I suppose the hand played the only way it could.

[totalise]

In a higher stakes game you probably would have folded.

never...the guy has half a buyin and limp called preflop, he is sticking it in here with any pp/draw all too often, and KK does real good against that range.... no matter what stakes you play you shouldn't fold in this spot

[boldie]

In a higher stakes game you probably would have folded.

never...the guy has half a buyin and limp called preflop, he is sticking it in here with any pp/draw all too often, and KK does real good against that range.... no matter what stakes you play you shouldn't fold in this spot

yeah I should have made myself a lot clearer in the post.

In a higher stakes game, a; you wouldn't have thhat many callers...and you wouldn't need to bet 10x the BB pre-flop.
of course that also means you wouldn't have to stick that much (compared to BB) in on the flop...then we the guy pushes you could fold. (if indeed, like the man said, you KNOW..you FEEL IT...he has a set.