Any Port in a storm? Southampton get it right. For some.

[ItsMrAlex2u]

the point was just that it was a 2 dayer anyway, but reading flushys post about having 60k at the 150/300 level puts it in perspective a bit !!
Changing how many days the tourn is going to run once it has started is going just a tad to far !!

(a tad = about a quarter of a million space miles according to the film Airplane 2)

[M3boy]

the point was just that it was a 2 dayer anyway, but reading flushys post about having 60k at the 150/300 level puts it in perspective a bit !!
Changing how many days the tourn is going to run once it has started is going just a tad to far !!

(a tad = about a quarter of a million space miles according to the film Airplane 2)

LOL m8, your point on James having 60,000 chips at 150 300 level is irrelevant as no matter how many chips James accumulates - he will always pi$$ them away before the final table!   this was a live comp after all!!

[tikay]

You dont see the difference in having 7,500 chips and a 45 minute clock compared to 10,000 chips and an hour clock?

Of course you do m8, but I take your point.

AND, had I of been there, and they announced the change to 10,000 and hour clock, I for one would welcome that change !!

.....as did almost every player in the comp. But it's the nature of poker. Try & change things - be it right or wrong, better or worse - & you are gonna attract a bit of flak. Best to do what most folks do - keep your head below the parapet, & just lob a stone or two over every now & then to show your presence.

In this case, the comp started at 6pm on Day One, & 2.30pm on Day Two. More than adequate time to have a decent structure. (In the opinion of most....). So the case (hypothetical) for saying "nope, on principle, we must not change things that have been advertised even though we know they are are wrong, because they have been advertised" is a bit over my head. But I can see the point being made by the detractors.

One thing I would struggle with is changing  a clock or structure part way through a comp. For me, that kite will never fly.

[ItsMrAlex2u]

For me, that kite will never fly.

Thats just being defeatist. Tie the kite to the back of a 747!

[NoflopsHomer]

One thing I would struggle with is changing  a clock or structure part way through a comp. For me, that kite will never fly.

They did that at Southampton last time at the South of England Poker Festival, they suddenly decided to make the first two (or was it four?) levels 45 minutes, and the rest 1 hr.

[tikay]

One thing I would struggle with is changing  a clock or structure part way through a comp. For me, that kite will never fly.

They did that at Southampton last time at the South of England Poker Festival, they suddenly decided to make the first two (or was it four?) levels 45 minutes, and the rest 1 hr.

They assured me they won't do that again. This time, they changed it BEFORE the event began, & announced it to all.

I do feel sorry for Grosvenor. They are really trying to improve things, but whatever they do, they get criticised, or a mistake they made in the past is resurrected.

Who'd organise a Poker Tourney, eh?......

[Royal Flush]

The problem as i saw it was with 7k and 45mins it would play to the final 9 on day 1, with 10k and 1hr it wont.

The event was on a Sunday, 17 players came back on the Monday. 8 of those players came back to get nothing, some of them would have had to take a day of work to do that.

[M3boy]

The problem as i saw it was with 7k and 45mins it would play to the final 9 on day 1, with 10k and 1hr it wont.

The event was on a Sunday, 17 players came back on the Monday. 8 of those players came back to get nothing, some of them would have had to take a day of work to do that.

Thats why I said if a structure is advertised, then it shouldnt change - People CANNOT moan then, as they know what they are getting BEFORE they enter the comp.

You could have a situation whereby, someone travelled say 100 miles to play a comp on the same day because that comp was advertised as a 10,000 chip 1 hr clock - only to then find that the comp 1 mile down the road (which was advertised as a 7500chip 45 min clock comp) suddenly became a 10000chip 1hr clock comp.

Get my point?

[RED-DOG]

Was the structure advertised beforehand, if so, where?

Just curious.

[tikay]

Was the structure advertised beforehand, if so, where?

Just curious.

Yes, it was advertised in the Flyer.

[M3boy]

Tes it was advertised, which is why I made the conscious decision not to play it.

[tikay]

Tes it was advertised, which is why I made the conscious decision not to play it.

...and why I made the conscious decision to ring them up before travelling to ask if they'd consider changing the sructure......

It's amazing what one can achieve in life by asking politely.   

[M3boy]

Fair point Tony,,, fair point.

[RED-DOG]

Tes it was advertised, which is why I made the conscious decision not to play it.

...and why I made the conscious decision to ring them up before travelling to ask if they'd consider changing the sructure......

It's amazing what one can achieve in life by asking politely.   

I always ask them to consider changing the structure if I think they have the scope to do it and that the majority of the players would prefer a longer clock/more levels/more starting chips.

Amazingly, and to their credit, they agree about 75% of the time.

[TightEnd]

They were hoping for 90-100 people

Once they knew thay had 60-70 then I think a longer clock/more chips became a pragmatic option favoured by most players to allow the comp to take up all the time available and therefore not be unneccesarily crapshooty.

I would say so, but I liked the change a lot