Any Port in a storm? Southampton get it right. For some.

[tikay]

Went down to Southampton yesterday for the Southern Masters, the fact that I'm back home already says it all.

But a big up to Grosvenor Southampton, & their handsome (forgot his name...) Cardroom Manager. It was scheduled for 7,000 chips & 45 minutes. I gently & politely suggested 10,000 chips & a 1 hour clock may go down well, & he changed it! Top Bloke. Sadly, one player was not at ALL happy, & had a bit of a rant. Manager pointed at me & said "his idea"....oops......

Lovely comp it waa too. I had a wonderful struggle with Tony Adderly - a real "personal" though friendly duel, we went up against each other 30 or more times. He bluffed me off a few, me him likewise. On one occasion, my BB, with 6 limpers, I Raised it up BIG with 7-2 off. Got 7 bloody callers........(geezer from the adjacent table called too). I actualy thought the 9-5-2 flop may have me ahead, but Mr Adderley was sat with 2's in the hole.......

It was fitting that it was he that busted me eventually, after a night when I played as well as I can, but very little went right for me. I played 2 hands sub-optimum all night, & got punished each time. Poker, like life, does that.

But the point is, well done Grosvenor Southampton. GREAT comp, well run, good buffet, lovely structure, & good company. It don't get better than that.

[TightEnd]

the bloke was still ranting at 2am

"it should have been a one day comp"

"what idiot wanted more chips"

well done to that idiot!!

[tikay]

the bloke was still ranting at 2am

"it should have been a one day comp"

"what idiot wanted more chips"

well done to that idiot!!

I know - he was SERIOUSLY upset. Never said a dicky-bird to me though.

Oddly, I'm against changing advertised structures & clocks. But nothing should be set in stone, & I do believe the vast majority would prefer a better structure. Joe Grech, amongst others, approached me pre-comp & asked if I would try & get it changed, & he knows a thing or two about playable structures. Did not help him, mind you. Or me, come to think of it....

[Sheriff Fatman]

Sounds like the basis of his moan was that it was a 2 day comp, not a 1-dayer, and nothing you got changed affected this.

Makes you wonder why he played it at all, if the 2nd day was going to be inconvenient for him.

Sheriff

[dik9]

Whilst I agree that 10,000 points on a 1 hour clock is a much better comp, surely they should stick to the original plan?

I know it sounds negative, but just playing devils advocate, It was on a Sunday/Monday, what if he was a night worker etc rather than booking a day off, intended to work after comp. He may have entered purely because the structure suited him or estimated that the final will be over at a particular time. People had turned up to play that comp at the advertised structure, and i feel it probably did more harm than good in the long run.

[MrMoves]

I agree with Dik9.  The structure shouldn't be changed from the advertised once players have bought in.

A change doesn't mean a change for the better for everyone.

[tikay]

Well, whatever you guys think, let's take nothing away from Grosvenor Sothampton, who ran a lovely comp. Keeping poker players happy is not easy. Trust me........

[Rod Paradise]

I agree with Dik9.  The structure shouldn't be changed from the advertised once players have bought in.

A change doesn't mean a change for the better for everyone.

 

Advertised structures shouldn't change unless cicumstances dictate it (hugely over/under subscribed etc).

[Royal Flush]

The structure gave far to much play, i had 60,000 on the 150-300 level, madness. (Average for the final 68k) of course i never made day 2, that would be silly.

[Snatiramas]

I like Southampton

[booder]

I like Southampton

they havnt been the same since le Tiss left though.

[M3boy]

I happen to agree as well. Once a structure is advertised, then I dont think it should be changed.

Had I of known it was a 10,000 chip and hour clock - I would of come and played.

Just my 2p's worth

[Indestructable]

What happened to that show on channel 425 that gives a poker player the chance to moan about changing the structure late on. 

Glad to hear Southampton went well, must try it next time around.

[ItsMrAlex2u]

I happen to agree as well. Once a structure is advertised, then I dont think it should be changed.

Had I of known it was a 10,000 chip and hour clock - I would of come and played.

Just my 2p's worth

I definitely agree with not changing a structure if it is going to significantly change a tournament. Last year I was in London with work (from Jersey), which I had just managed to "accidently" time as being on the same day as a £100 rebuy in Brighton, which was advertised as a 1 day event. About an hour into the tournament the tournament director announced that the final table was now going to be the next day. My flight back to Jersey was 10am the following morning !!!
Due to inexperience and not wanting to look an idiot in front of people I didnt say anything, called off my chips and left. If the same thing happened now I would be damn sure to tell the TD that they cant change it that drastically during the tournament !
This one was always advertised as a 2 dayer, so i dont really see what difference the extra chips made.

[M3boy]

You dont see the difference in having 7,500 chips and a 45 minute clock compared to 10,000 chips and an hour clock?

Of course you do m8, but I take your point.

AND, had I of been there, and they announced the change to 10,000 and hour clock, I for one would welcome that change !!