Passing TT preflop?

[NoflopsHomer]

     mpickle is at seat 0 with 1795.
     AAPONYAA is at seat 1 with 1260.
     Ring_Master is at seat 2 with 2140.
     Thorangla is at seat 3 with 1715.
     MrFubb is at seat 4 with 415.
     cpt_kangaroo is at seat 5 with 3480.
     Foaming_Homer is at seat 6 with 1675.
     heyoung is at seat 7 with 1920.
     mobucks is at seat 8 with 920.
     Gangsta46 is at seat 9 with 4040.
     The button is at seat 8.
     
     Gangsta46 posts the small blind of 30.
     mpickle posts the big blind of 60.

     mpickle:  -- --
     AAPONYAA:  -- --
     Ring_Master:  -- --
     Thorangla:  -- --
     MrFubb:  -- --
     cpt_kangaroo:  -- --
     Foaming_Homer: 
     heyoung:  -- --
     mobucks:  -- --
     Gangsta46:  -- --

Pre-flop:
 
          AAPONYAA raises to 275.   Ring_Master folds. 
          Thorangla folds.   MrFubb folds.   cpt_kangaroo folds.
           Foaming_Homer calls.   heyoung calls.   mobucks calls.
            Gangsta46 folds.   mpickle folds.   

Flop (board: ):
 
          AAPONYAA checks.   Foaming_Homer checks.   heyoung
          checks.   mobucks goes all-in for 645.   AAPONYAA
          folds.   Foaming_Homer folds.   heyoung calls.   

          Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
 
               heyoung shows .
               mobucks shows .
         

Turn (board: ):
 
        (no action in this round)
         

River (board: ):
 
        (no action in this round)
         

         

Showdown:
 
     heyoung has : full house, jacks full of aces.
     mobucks has : full house, eights full of jacks.

Intially raiser passes QQ, now should I even be calling here preflop? By the large preflop raise, I put him on QQ-JJ, perhaps AK. I had a good debate with him afterwards and he asks why I'm even calling preflop if I think he has a bigger pair. I'm adding mobucks to my buddy list though.

[Sheriff Fatman]

Its entirely read-dependent whether you would pass TT here.  Given that you've put him on a range that beats you then passing in this situation is certainly something I would consider, especially if you fear a reraise behind you.

If the stacks were very deep then, even if you could put someone on exactly AA, then calling with TT would be a legitimate play due to implied odds (there's some reference to this in one of the Harrington books, which debates this point).  However, in this situation you're calling off too big a percentage of your stack in a situation where UTG has put in almost 25% of his stack so the odds aren't there.

Given your read I think folding is the best option.  Calling brings about too many difficult flop decisions, although in this case the disastrous flop makes it a very easy check-fold for you, given the action.

Sheriff

[temp0r]

you can put him on QQ-JJ just from a pre-flop raise? thats some online tell you've picked up? hmm.

[NoflopsHomer]

I'd seen him make standard raises earlier, he's a fairly competent player. What else is he going to raise 4.5xBB with?

[temp0r]

if he had any sense he'd mix up his preflop raises surely?! but i guess it depends on the buy-in. anything below 30 dolla and you've got a fair point.

[booder]

standard fold

[NoflopsHomer]

standard fold

You're a mug.

[booder]

standard fold

pab agrees

You're a mug.

see statement above           

[boldie]

if you put him on JJ QQ or something like that it's a fold.

I would peel off a flop with it though, like you did..just to see if one of the lucky tens came up.