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« Reply #90 on: November 09, 2006, 05:06:17 PM »

I don't know the rules of the game that's being played here, but if it helps to clarify whether or not a goal has been scored the bottom line is I don't believe that fortune tellers, psychics, mediums etc can see the future/contact the dead.

hope that is useful.

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« Reply #91 on: November 09, 2006, 05:07:27 PM »

Judges decision is final  Smiley
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« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2006, 05:11:48 PM »

Unfortunate but true. It's the only way we can function wothout anarchy.
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« Reply #93 on: November 09, 2006, 05:14:57 PM »

Whilst we are on a touchy feely subject, I am often shocked by re responsed you get when people are asked if there is life on other planets.

Lets be honest, its kind of narrow minded to think that we on this planet are alone in the entire Universe.

Has life from other worlds visited us, well thats one i'm a little sceptical about.  WHo the FU*K would want to visit here, let alone some moor in middle England or the place where Tank Lives.

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« Reply #94 on: November 09, 2006, 05:36:44 PM »

See, I don't know if we are the only ones out there but I can't believe we are the only planet in the vast and ever expanding universe that has life on it.

Lazytown Cheesy  I quite like that program!
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« Reply #95 on: November 09, 2006, 05:44:00 PM »

See, I don't know if we are the only ones out there but I can't believe we are the only planet in the vast and ever expanding universe that has life on it.

Lazytown Cheesy  I quite like that program!

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« Reply #96 on: November 09, 2006, 07:10:33 PM »

I personally dont believe in fortune tellers. I was talked into donating £20 a few years back to have my cards read and I found it all to be complete garbage.

"I keep seeing the name Stephen...Do you know a Stephen?"

"No"

"Someone called Stephen will come into your life blah blah" - still waiting for the mysterious Stephen.

"Do you know someone who is or has been in jail?" Now this one I found really funny as half the estate I lived on had been in jail at sometime.  Cheesy

I also went to see a hypnotist show many years and my mate was one of the chosen subjects. I thought at first she was pretending but some of the things she did I knew she would not have done if she was not hypnotized. She also said she didnt remember anything.
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« Reply #97 on: November 09, 2006, 07:28:19 PM »


"I keep seeing the name Stephen...Do you know a Stephen?"

"No"

"Someone called Stephen will come into your life blah blah" - still waiting for the mysterious Stephen.

"Do you know someone who is or has been in jail?" Now this one I found really funny as half the estate I lived on had been in jail at sometime.  Cheesy



Stephen does sound a bit like Mikky though Smiley
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« Reply #98 on: November 09, 2006, 07:28:44 PM »

Just a thought...

Everytime she mentioned this 'older man' she could tell I was responding to what she was saying to me, so if she was just judging on how I react to things then why did she say that Leon was in the same age group as me?
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« Reply #99 on: November 09, 2006, 07:41:23 PM »

any news on that female mod yet?   
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« Reply #100 on: November 09, 2006, 08:02:15 PM »

any news on that female mod yet?  

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« Reply #101 on: November 09, 2006, 08:04:43 PM »

I protested at the time of the ruling, my protest stands!

P.S. UL Tighty.
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« Reply #102 on: November 09, 2006, 08:08:06 PM »

I protested at the time of the ruling, my protest stands!

P.S. UL Tighty.

Objection overruled !!

And yes ul tighty Cheesy
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« Reply #103 on: November 09, 2006, 08:12:06 PM »

Are there two separate conversations taking place on one thread here?

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« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2006, 09:40:08 AM »

Just a thought...

Everytime she mentioned this 'older man' she could tell I was responding to what she was saying to me, so if she was just judging on how I react to things then why did she say that Leon was in the same age group as me?

As long as you wanted an informative answer and don't just think this is cynicism for the sake of it...

1 technique you will see (used quite frequently by Colin Fry) when fishing for dates or ages is just to change what you meant as you get responses.

Imagine trying to cold read the age of a person's younger sister:


"She is quite a lot younger than you"
1) [positive response/body language]
"Its a lot of years between you, and this meant you didn't always get on perfectly" (note the second half is virtually certain and deflects from the date fishing)
This is now a judgment call, but I guess:
a) [Firmly positive]
"Sometimes siblings with 8-10 years between them have (...xyz issue, make something up)"
[Above is an indirect guess, reconfirm a positive response as though you knew it, adjust guess otherwise, it will be considered correct from 6-15 maybe 20 years]
b) [Medium response]
"She is around 5, maybe 6 years younger than you"
c) [Weak Response]
"3 - 4 years, maybe more"

OR

"She is quite a lot younger than you"
2) [weak response/body language]
"1 or 2 years at least"

The latter is where you need to be a salesman and deliver the line completely confidently and congruently, in text its clearly silly, but live, with someone who wants to believe and you have created good rapport with, its quite possible it will be remembered as a successful hit, and certainly not a failure.

I don't know how the conversation went in your case, but a guess would be that she said "around the same age range" and got a strong positive response and, went for within months (or you said "yes, within months!"), and hit first time. I guess if you had looked uncomfortable at the 'same age range' comment, she would have said "yes, similar age range, within 10 years?" and tried to sell it as a hit.

I should add, because I think someone hinted at this earlier in the thread, that some of these pyschics could well believe what they are doing (unconcious fraud). This is because instructional books on tea leaf reading or palm reading tell the learner what phrases to say based on patterns or lines. The phrases are worded as per the cold reading, but perhaps even the author believed it and didn't realise that.

Because of the correct wordings, the hits are believed by both the reader and the subject, and they both come to genuinely believe in the supernatural. Add to this someone who reads people well anyway and will trust their intuition (although probably without realising they are unconciously picking up all the queues from theit customer), and they can genuinely believe they are doing something magical.

Having said that, Colin Fry and John Edwards are conmen who have earnt fame and a living preying on vulnerable people. So some cynisism is healthy...
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