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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2006, 04:20:48 PM »

What happened?

50p at the ready.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2006, 04:22:11 PM »

How would you play the AK then IFM?

It seems a waste to raise it up and then pass - you could just do that with any trash.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2006, 04:27:55 PM »

Call and flip at the same time.

Potentially a tournament winning pot.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2006, 04:39:51 PM »

It would depend on what you want from the comp.

If you are looking to "Cash first" then "see how high you can go" - its a fold

If you are trying to WIN the comp - then its a call

I disagree with this, if you call you gamble 2/3rds of your chips on what is likely to be a coinflip.
You can fold this easily without harming yourself and steal away to your hearts content and get yourself into a situation with a better hand than ace high.
You don't need to gamble every hand to win a comp!!!!!!!!

In this situation i think you are probably 60-40 against your oppo's range.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2006, 04:47:47 PM »

How would you play the AK then IFM?

It seems a waste to raise it up and then pass - you could just do that with any trash.

It depends on a lot of factors.
I'm not saying that you have to fold AK to a reraise what i'm saying is that folding here doesn't mean you don't want to win. (this is what M3 is saying).
You can fold here and still win but if you call and he turns over 22 you are needlessly gambling IMO.
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2006, 05:09:33 PM »

Call all day long.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2006, 05:18:40 PM »

I called.

He flipped 99, I lost the race.

Looking back, I called as I thought the possibility of him having AQ or AJ was too great. And I know, no doubt, that if I win that hand, I win the tourney.

I am a little disappointed though, as in hindsight, I risked most of my chips for a great chance to win but also I risked all my chips to have very little chance of winning.

I am glad to see most would advocate calling as did many people watching, but it is still nagging me on whether it was the right call
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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2006, 05:49:39 PM »

If there's a consensus with AK in this spot, whay would you guys do with AQo?
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2006, 06:08:02 PM »

I probably call, I find it hard to give credit for a hand better than AQ in a 2 way pot.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2006, 06:18:51 PM »

If there's a consensus with AK in this spot, whay would you guys do with AQo?

So you're assuming we're calling all day long with AQs? Cheesy
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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2006, 08:31:51 PM »

Many thing can happen in a poker tournament but when it comes down the the critical point, getting 50:50 on a position where you would get first or second prize money is too hard to turn down.
A fold only keeps you in the game, a call will make the real money.
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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2006, 10:25:10 PM »

Before seeing what your opponent had I was thinking I'd definitely call as well. If I was in your opponents position and you'd 'stolen' from me before and you've made the exact same move the next time I'd be tempted to push to test you. IMO you both made the correct move, but only one of you can win and unfortunately this time, it was your opponent.
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2006, 10:45:59 PM »

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Many thing can happen in a poker tournament but when it comes down the the critical point, getting 50:50 on a position where you would get first or second prize money is too hard to turn down.
A fold only keeps you in the game, a call will make the real money.


Now would the villan push it from the psychological P.O.V with any two after making this comment?
and is it +e.v to risk 2/3 of your chips when you might be slight underdog i.e you suspect that your opponet has a pp  ?

i don't think it is a clear cut call.
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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2006, 10:59:21 PM »

I didn't respond to this before because I thought it was a no brainer. 

Having thought about it a bit more, there maybe is a case for folding.  But only if the table is playing too tight. i.e if you can fold and immediately pick up 6k on the next hand with a raise.

To those advocating folding - would you show?
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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2006, 12:09:58 AM »

I didn't respond to this before because I thought it was a no brainer. 

Having thought about it a bit more, there maybe is a case for folding.  But only if the table is playing too tight. i.e if you can fold and immediately pick up 6k on the next hand with a raise.

To those advocating folding - would you show?

ABSOLUTELY NOT, you couldn't show here because you would get it everytime and rightly so, i never show anyway BTW.
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