standard of live poker is getting scary....

[quantify]

that is a real shame , you play poker to try and win some cash , but where is your ambition, why would you want to win a 1000 tourney and not want to invest in an ept ............

 is it now  STARTING to make sense to you , im looking at this from wanting to get somewhere, you are looking at it to try and win some dough,   they come hand in hand .

the urge to be at the top is my want , so pleease understand my rants , cos i understand you basic instinct to gamble to win some money.

[totalise]

if you want to be at the top, then figure out how to beat the bad players, figure out how to embrace the variance, and figure out how to keep your emotions in check. Once you have mastered that, then you can figure out how to beat the best players, because if you cant master the former, you will never be able to master the latter.

[JungleCat03]

I don't think it's a serious poster..

Who says " I want better players who know what they are doing so I win less money please"

What in fact it seems like you are saying quantify is...

.."I find it hard to handle the variance of tournament play and frustrating that my hands don't always hold up"

Yup, that's poker. For god's sake don't start laying into players who call/reraise big raises with Q7 then get their chips in on a Q high flop against your Aces when you're deep. This is a gift. Why complain? You're not good enough to find better edges than this.

Suggesting divisions of skills is ridiculous. Like many poker players, you might have aspirations of winning the WSOP. Impossible to do unless you can deal with lots of weak players like the dmitri nobles of this world as well as strong players (and have lashings of luck and cards.) The bad players add money to the prizepool. Why do you want to win less money?

I think you should redefine your idea of what a good player is.

Someone who complains about too many bad players, directly insults players who stack off with Q7 on a Q hi flop, and suggests segregating skill levels in poker (!!!) wouldn't be regarded as a good player by most of the decent players i know.

[quantify]

that is ridicoulus im a bad player because i dont want a crazy play against me.

the problem here is this;  it would happen in  a 5 rebuy , it would happen in a 20 rebuy , it may happen in a 100 rebuy,  it wouldnt happen in an ept it wouldnt happen in an wpt etc in such numbers .......... it would happen in the wsop cos their is so many nightmares .......

so where is the line........... 1000  shud it or shud it not happen.  tis the question.

[quantify]

OK I GIVE UP JUST MAILED TK , WAT STARTED OFF AS A RANT BECOME ME PLAYIN DEVILS ADVOCATE , ILL STOP NOW . LOL

[jezza777]

that is ridicoulus im a bad player because i dont want a crazy play against me.

the problem here is this;  it would happen in  a 5 rebuy , it would happen in a 20 rebuy , it may happen in a 100 rebuy,  it wouldnt happen in an ept it wouldnt happen in an wpt etc in such numbers .......... it would happen in the wsop cos their is so many nightmares .......

so where is the line........... 1000  shud it or shud it not happen.  tis the question.

Trust me it does, there is donk a plenty in the WSOP and I was happy to have em.

[JungleCat03]

Crazy plays don't happen in big comps, apart from the wsop?

What's this hand all about then from the EPT in september....?


Quote from an EPT report...

"A pretty sick hand here at the EPT. Beware, guys - here goes.

Player A raises to 1900 from fairly early position with an A5. Player B, 19 years old, smells weakness and reraises to 5000. A senses wekness as well - and decides to call.

The flop comes Q 7 4 , meaning both players have absolutely nothing - no pair, no draw. A checks and then B bets 6,000. Now A decides to check-raise to 20K - so now the hand is over, right? Well, not exactly: B moves all-in with a jack high, no pair / no draw. And A is now so committed with only 8K left, that he decides to call with an ace high / no pair / no draw. No help on the turn and river for either player, and A wins a massive 70K pot - with absolutely nothing!"

2 bad players?

[quantify]

thats why i said it would happen in the wsop.

oh ive stopped i forgot

[thetank]

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PLAY AGAINST THE BEST?

When the best play against each other, another breed emerges. The best of the best.

If everyone in the UK spends all their time playing against the minnows and the donks, the standard of the best UK poker players will fall below that of the standard of top Scandinavian and US players.

Too many evenings, people leave poker tournaments when they "know" they have done the right thing, but just got unlucky. If they start exiting because they feel they have been outplayed, they will strive to do something better next time. They will iron their game until it's the best it can be. In turn this forces others to improve and so on and so on.

Those with deep pockets arn't just in it for the money, they have enough money anyway. Sure the financial side of things will always be deep at the root of poker, but surely there's something to be said for the competitive side of things too.

We need to take action, maybe everyone who goes into a casino has to first beat the coat check girl at heads up 7-card stud. Ok this perhaps isn't the most practical suggestion, but I don't see you guys coming up with anything.

You're all content to sit back and count the money coming in. That's all very well, but all the tabloid headlines and gold medals will be taken and won by the Iveys and Snogstrom's out there. Before you know it, you will have waken up one morning to find that there is no room in the new world order for the Jones's and Barrington Smyth's. What then, we can all find another game to be mediocre at?

[quantify]

of course they happen in the ept its the regularity , well done you found one,

damn stop this put yer laptop away ......

[RobS]

Crazy plays don't happen in big comps, apart from the wsop?

What's this hand all about then from the EPT in september....?


Quote from an EPT report...

"A pretty sick hand here at the EPT. Beware, guys - here goes.

Player A raises to 1900 from fairly early position with an A5. Player B, 19 years old, smells weakness and reraises to 5000. A senses wekness as well - and decides to call.

The flop comes Q 7 4 , meaning both players have absolutely nothing - no pair, no draw. A checks and then B bets 6,000. Now A decides to check-raise to 20K - so now the hand is over, right? Well, not exactly: B moves all-in with a jack high, no pair / no draw. And A is now so committed with only 8K left, that he decides to call with an ace high / no pair / no draw. No help on the turn and river for either player, and A wins a massive 70K pot - with absolutely nothing!"

2 bad players?

Those two should be banned from playing big buy-in comps until they have proved they can play properly 

[Royal Flush]

divisionalise skill levels let the best play with the best and uk poker will improve , we have good plyers .  but what are we learning under the current format , not a lot. 

Its not a team sport, i don't care if English players are shit if i am winning

[Raindogs]

What about that dumbass who called my all in with 8's with A3s at the Broadway last Friday.  The shit rivered me and knocked me out last week.  WHAT A FACKKKING LIBERTY.  ACE FACKKING 3 SOOTTEEED.   IT'S THE LAST TIME THEY ESCORT ME FROM THE PREMESIS.

SWEET SOOTHING CIDER EASES THE PAIN

[simonow]

divisionalise skill levels let the best play with the best and uk poker will improve , we have good plyers .  but what are we learning under the current format , not a lot. 

Its not a team sport, i don't care if English players are shit if i am winning

Wake up Flushy when was the Last Time you Won anything Live  lol

[Pab]

lol