The collapse of the comeback

[Muahahahaha]

why not limp and then play it strong on flop and esp the turn?    Umm, because I'm not as good as I think I am ?  .  I normally ( at my nice comfy $5 tables ) play it the way I did here, & it either works, or I let it go.  I don't play tp strongly as such, I just expect people to do as they're told & only bet back at me if they've got something I should worry about.  This is why Shaneyboy confused me.  I expect people at a higher level to play better/more subtle stuff, so I was worried about what he could have that I missed.

i want an open ended straight draw or 2 pairs minimum to continue putting chips in AFTER the continuation bet  Yes, I see.  So maybe I should have just given up on it after the 320 didn't work, irrespective of whether I was winning or not.

If I'd put in the larger bet ( pot size, or even slightly overpot ) it would have been harder for him to call, but if he had called, I'd have been more confidant that he had trips or something decent.

 

[Muahahahaha]

There's  so much stuff here I'll have to reread it all, before I try to implement it.

But I really appreciate the time you guys ( of whatever sex ) take to help.  I'm not a total newbie, But because I play for fun, I've always kept well within my comfort zone.

My total profit for the first year I've been playing ( to end Oct ) was just over $150.  Which is all I was trying to do, break even & have some cheap fun.

Now's the time I'm trying to up the ante, & improve.  This last few weeks I'm showing a bit of a loss, coz I'm trying new stuff ( & getting it wrong, would you believe ).  But my knowledge has already increased incrementally.

Thanks again. 

If I keep asking stupid questions, will you keep answering them ?

[ifm]

A good tip that has been mentioned before is to go thru the hands you play out loud, "right i've got top pair and i'll bet the pot", "what has he called that with?" etc. etc.
You look mad in the library but it can help the thought process.

[Muahahahaha]

A good tip that has been mentioned before is to go thru the hands you play out loud, "right i've got top pair and i'll bet the pot", "what has he called that with?" etc. etc.
You look mad in the library but it can help the thought process.

The hardest thing to learn (i believe) is to let go of a hand, once mastered results improve.

That alone would have saved me 1400 chips

Yet more things to put in the file marked 'learn this you git'.

If I get to play game on the works computer, not a problem with the talking to myself bit, they all know I'm a bit strange.  But at home I don't want to give the mrs any more excuse to get me put away.

[Royal Flush]

On the flop you have a top pair with ok kicker

OK kicker, pmsl

[thetank]

I would have passed pre-flop.....

Me too.

Full Tilt structure doesn't really suit that game though.

[Muahahahaha]

I would have passed pre-flop.....

Me too.

Full Tilt structure doesn't really suit that game though.

Interesting comment.  I play these stts at the moment coz the blinds go up so slowly ( I used to play prima  ).

Is there a better place to play ( & make money ) for someone at my level.  I've played a few games on tribeca recently, but I've been getting out aggressioned at the ordinary games.  The Extended games don't seem so bad, but what do you think ?

[Wardonkey]

I would have passed pre-flop.....

Me too.

Full Tilt structure doesn't really suit that game though.

Interesting comment.  I play these stts at the moment coz the blinds go up so slowly ( I used to play prima  ).

Is there a better place to play ( & make money ) for someone at my level.  I've played a few games on tribeca recently, but I've been getting out aggressioned at the ordinary games.  The Extended games don't seem so bad, but what do you think ?

You can make money with any structure but you have to adjust your game accordingly.

FT, stars 'normal' and tribeca 'extended' are all fairly slow. I suggest you pick one and stick with it. 

Tank and I both play fairly fast structured games and our tactics are based on that. If we were playing slower structured games we would have to play more hands early or we would just bleed to death.

[thetank]

Was me trying to say that although my first instinct tells me to pass KQ in this spot, it wasn't necessary such a bad thing playing it in a Full Tilt SNG.

[Wardonkey]

Was me trying to say that although my first instinct tells me to pass KQ in this spot, it wasn't necessary such a bad thing playing it in a Full Tilt SNG.

I know, I hadn't even noticed it was FT when I made the 'I pass' comment.

[Muahahahaha]

So what sort of structure do you guys play ?  I find the prima 1000 chip ones sooooo fast & I tried some ( Paradise ? ) where you start with 800 chips, which is far too few chips for me to make an early error with

[thetank]

All number of chips are relative to the blind levels.

The normal structure on Tribecca, there are 2000 starting chips, but the blinds are 150/300 after just 32 mnutes.  This is the point where we're usually on or very near the bubble. The whole tournament rarely lasts any longer than 50 minutes.

[vegaslover]

For me, the point of the tourney is more relevant. It's still quite early and you have an ok stack. KQ is probably better as a call at this stage, keep the pot small. The cs will call most bets unless their very significant, and then they will only call with a strong hand, no need to risk large % of your chips with KQ at this stage.
As has been mentioned already, most bets are getting a call, once cs gets a draw he's not letting go of it. You only have 1 pair. You have already acknowledged how many chips you could have saved yourself in this situation.

With regards to which sites to play on, find a structure you are comfortable with and stick to it. You'll soon recognise the times to make moves or hold back.
You're already in profit so probably on the right track.
Last point - read Wardonkeys articles on STTs.

Good luck

[Muahahahaha]

All number of chips are relative to the blind levels.

The normal structure on Tribecca, there are 2000 starting chips, but the blinds are 150/300 after just 32 mnutes.  This is the point where we're usually on or very near the bubble. The whole tournament rarely lasts any longer than 50 minutes.

I find at the lower levels ( $5 & $10 ) on tribeca ordinary, that these games are so aggressive that if I play squeezy cheek tight, I'm invariably shorty with 5 left.  Is that the same 'Ooop there' at the higher levels?  If so is that necessarly a bad thing ?

[TightEnd]

Not really

for example the $100 normals on Stars are the tightest games around, the $50s are looser. the $100s are more beatable I find