Play Along With Snoopy

[doubleup]

I think the key here is what he bets with various hands.  He is more likely to have a pair than a set, so maybe the best way forward is to check and see if we can work out from his river action what he has.  He probably bets with KK, maybe QQ, but surely checks the rest.  He probably bets about 100 with these.  I think he bets a bit more with a set.

The other line is to bet 100-150 ourselves and fold to a raise.  I think this might be better as he probably calls a bet of 100 with some hands that he would check behind with.  So I'll go for that.

[snoopy1239]

Could we fold to a re-raise for just $200 more with so much in the pot?

[doubleup]

Could we fold to a re-raise for just $200 more with so much in the pot?

I'm pretty sure we are beaten if we are raised on the river.  I like it better than checking and folding to a bet of 300.

[snoopy1239]

(Conlcusion)


***** Hand History for Game 5489792374 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, December 08, 01:42:39 ET 2006
Table Jackpot #1304230 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6

Seat 1: Pavel55 ( $256.55 )
Seat 3: snoopy1239 ( $530.15 )
Seat 4: A_Reza ( $116.82 )
Seat 6: No_remorse1 ( $712.45 )
Seat 2: JOSJOJO ( $83.20 )
Seat 5: neverfold678 ( $40.50 )
snoopy1239 posts small blind [$1].
A_Reza posts big blind [$2].

Dealt to snoopy1239 [ ]

neverfold678 folds.
No_remorse1 raises [$6]
Pavel55 calls [$6]
JOSJOJO folds

snoopy1239 raises to [$26]
Bongo raises to [?]
Longines raises to [$28]
byronkincaid raises to [$24]
johnmul99 raises to [$30]
jezza777 raises to [$18]
booder raises to [$26]
Suited_Jock raises to [$30]
tantrum raises to [$27]

A_Reza folds.
No_remorse1 calls [$20]
Pavel55 calls [$20]

** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]

snoopy1239 checks.
byronkincaid bets [$68]
johnmul99 bets [$35]
TightEnd bets [$120]

No_remorse1 bets [$44]
Pavel55 folds.

snoopy1239 calls [$44]
johnmul99 raises to [?]
TightEnd raises to [$194]
byronkincaid raises to [?]
hotdog calls [$44]
moritzey raises to [$200]
Wardonkey raises to [?]
RookieITB calls [$44]
Raindogs calls [$44]
Horneris calls [$44]

** Dealing Turn ** [ ]

snoopy1239 checks
doubleup checks
raindogs bets [?]

No_remorse1 bets [$99]
snoopy1239 calls [$99]
TightEnd calls [$99]
doubleup [$99]
Raindogs raises to [$250]
tantrum raises to [?]

** Dealing River ** [ ]

snoopy1239 is all-In.
doubleup bets [$125]

No_remorse1 calls [$361.15]

snoopy1239 shows [ , ]two pairs, Aces and Threes.
No_remorse1 shows [ , ]a full house, Eights full of Threes.
The time at which hand ended:Dec 08 2006 01:43 ET
No_remorse1 wins $1085.80 from  the main pot  with a full house, Eights full of Threes.
#Game No : 5489793845

[snoopy1239]

As you can see, I convinced myself that he had a smaller overpair and would call any bet. I also knew that I was going to fold to any bet that he made so thought I'd be best off moving all-in rather than allowing him to check the smaller overpair. Foolishly, I was also influenced by the River which made a flopped set of threes unlikely. Oops.

Thank you to everyone who took part.

I posted this not because I wanted to rant and rave at how I lost half a grand with Aces, but to find out if I played the hand incorrectly or not. From reading doubleup's review of the River, I'm pretty sure that my final bet was a poor one. As for the rest of the hand, I'm not yet sure. I'm going to have to read through the thread again and evaluate some of the wonderful advice given.

Once again, many thanks for offering your views, I try to take each and every one on board in order to mould my own game. I hope you got as much out of the thread as I did. It sure is eye opening to see how differently people will play what is a regular occurring hand in online cash - a set versus an overpair.

I guess that's why we love the game so much...

[ifm]

allin>suckout

 

[doubleup]

Foolishly, I was also influenced by the River which made a flopped set of threes unlikely.


a regular occurring hand in online cash - a set versus an overpair.

I think threes were always less likely, as he raised pre. 

This was a bit of a freakish hand as the stacks were so deep and pretty well everyone would have lost a good amount.  I can't see how a standard 100bbs stack doesn't get lost here which is a more common occurence.  Maybe the only tactical mistake was not making a bigger reraise pre-flop as we were oop.  A 15% stack reraise only gets called by ak kk maybe qq.   

I think I said earlier in the thread that having a feel for opponents is more important that anything.  If we know that the opponent is a good player, a flop checkraise is probably enough to give us the info to fold.

I'm beginning to make a bit more progress in no limit by trying to protect my stack rather than the pot - ok this is exploitable by good opponents, but as long as I use the same tactics against them the effect is neutral.  This hand was a classic stack in danger situation.

[snoopy1239]

With our stacks that deep, is there ever a case for folding at any point and finding better opportunites where I am more confident in my hand?

[booder]

FFS  is this still going......................LET IT LIE !

[snoopy1239]

FFS  is this still going......................LET IT LIE !

With all due respect, booder, I think that was uncalled for.

If you're not interested in the thread, then don't read it.

[doubleup]

FFS  is this still going......................LET IT LIE !

FFS if your not interested don't read.

Snoopy you always lose a lot here, the only debate is how much.

[booder]

FFS  is this still going......................LET IT LIE !

With all due respect, booder, I think that was uncalled for.

If you're not interested in the thread, then don't read it.

humour injection needed by mr beagle methinks

[snoopy1239]

You need to put a smilie or something in there, booder. I wasn't the only one who misinterpreted the post.

[booder]

You need to put a smilie or something in there, booder. I wasn't the only one who misinterpreted the post.

post duely(is that a word?) amended squire.............no offence intended

[Royal Flush]

How many times has booder made a bitchy post on blonde? My counter says 0. Surely it was obvious he was messing!