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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2006, 09:01:46 PM »

My only concern is that 10-10 or J-J could be trying to find out where they are here.


 


I call the extra 200 and curse myself for making it 200 not 150 in the first place (damn misclicks)

As for his range of hands, this is a $200 so his range here is massive, so much so i am not going to try to define it preflop.
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2006, 10:20:51 PM »

Regarding his hand, could be anything given what we know so far, but the size of raise has my alarm bell ringing because I'd normally expect a bigger reraise. He should know I'm likely to call here.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2006, 02:28:23 AM »

My only concern is that 10-10 or J-J could be trying to find out where they are here.


 


Why?
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2006, 02:29:30 AM »

My only concern is that 10-10 or J-J could be trying to find out where they are here.


 


Why?

Do you really think JJ and TT are raising here to then fold to a 3 bet?
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2006, 02:31:25 AM »

I'm pretty sure he calls if you move in here
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2006, 02:32:15 AM »

I'm pretty sure he calls if you move in here

So is he "re-raising to find out where he is" or re-raising for value?
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2006, 02:33:20 AM »

I'm pretty sure he calls if you move in here

So is he "re-raising to find out where he is" or re-raising for value?

depends what he has
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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2006, 02:33:38 AM »

It means he has something he wants to be able to lay down on the flop with confidence if he gets a bad flop
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2006, 02:51:47 AM »

I'm pretty sure he calls if you move in here

So is he "re-raising to find out where he is" or re-raising for value?

depends what he has

JJ/TT
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2006, 07:09:34 PM »

I think he's expecting Boldie to raise UTG with a huge range of hands like the one he has and is reraising with a better hand but not a monster, probably a weak ace or something along the lines of JT.  I think he's testing to see if you're raising with junk or not and your call tells him you're not really strong but have some kind of hand.  If you wanted to be aggressive you could min re-raise and if he was weak he'd possibly fold but probably call, if he was strong he'd shove but I think with your hand you're looking to either take it pre flop with the raise hoping he has nothing and wont play back or see a flop so Id flat call the reraise and see what the flop brings and what he does as first to act.
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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2006, 07:22:39 PM »

Having seen how popular the format of snoopies "Let's play a hand" is I thought I'd do the same for a HU game.
Also because I think it makes for just about the most interesting hand analysis.

Taken from a 200$ HU Sit and Go.

A bit of back ground;

Player A has the button, has been fairly tight as far as you can be tight in a HU game. Both are back to about equal chips so if the chips were to fly in the middle of this one and you lose you have essentially lost the game.
Player B has started to adapt to player A's game. He was very lose, raising every button he had but has now started to slow down a bit. Whether this is because he has figured player A's style out or not you don't know. You have no notes on this player and you are player A. Raises haven't been out of order, as you would expect in a decent size STT.

Blinds are 25-50

Player A;   
(On the button) Raise?, Call? (God Forbid) Fold? and if Raise, how much?




Sorry to young mr ITB. 2000 chippies each (actually 2040 player A and 1960 player B)

Action player A; with

Raise to 200

Player B

Re-raises to 400.

Player B has not yet made this move, but using his description above of what he's done before (we haven't played that many hands yet and you don't have notes) two questions.

A; What range do you put him on. (admittedly quite tricky HU) Is he stealing or does he actually have something?

B; Call, Fold, or reraise?

 

edit* mistake on my part 2k chippies each (that's what I get for doing it from work from the top of my head.)


OK...

PlayerA calls. This means you have 1600 (about) chippies left back.

flop;

  three clubs


Player B who's first to act; Checks.

What's your action here?
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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2006, 07:52:08 PM »

Check, lets get some more information, if we bet here he can check raise us with any 2
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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2006, 08:34:03 PM »

hmmmm when ppl who should bet, check instead, I tread cautiously. Surely, absolutely everyone c-bets here and generally takes down the pot.  So either our opponent is either very unconventional or he feels that he can make more from checking.


The choice is either to bet and give up if called or raised or to give up unless we improve.
 
I might be wrong but I guess that we will indeed improve and this hand isn't going to go chk - chk,  chk - chk... Smiley

 
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2006, 08:43:07 PM »

hmmmm when ppl who should bet, check instead, I tread cautiously. Surely, absolutely everyone c-bets here and generally takes down the pot.  So either our opponent is either very unconventional or he feels that he can make more from checking.


The choice is either to bet and give up if called or raised or to give up unless we improve.
 
I might be wrong but I guess that we will indeed improve and this hand isn't going to go chk - chk,  chk - chk... Smiley

 

I am checking and then when he bets the turn either raising or calling.

The check by him i believe is a trap to make us lose control of the pot, if we bet he can check raise and we cant win the pot. If we check we are still in control.
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2006, 08:59:38 PM »

cheeeeeeeeeeeck, Ive got him on an ace and the ace hits, he might even have A7.  If he had the bare ace then Id expect him to bet out to see where he is since you've called his raise pre flop he probably puts you on some sort of ace too.
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