No Hello, just P4C.

[sofa----king]

They have their fixed costs, and they try and raise as much as they can.

It's not as if they take all donations, and decide to spend 70% of them.


The issue as I see it is could these fixed costs be trimmed right down. A poker tournament raising 1.8k should be put on for less than 900 quid?

like my post said that i took down this is similar and not copied from p4c site
    
£320 on a buffet i reckon that all wouldda rather-ed money go to good cause
nearly £270 on hotels and a room for a tournament director?wtf ,,,,wsop?
nearly £170 on 9 trophies for final table ...ridiculous in my eyes
nearly £190 on hire of a van and tables which p4c already own both of but they decided to hire them ?
this is almost £1000 i dont think should have been spent on this small tourney
if I'm wrong I'm wrong  but i don't think so.......
but as having had my own business since i was 14 this is not good accounting i

[Royal Flush]

Fair enough flushy. If what you're saying is correct (you aren't a spokesman by your own admission so we don't know) then its the corporate charitable donations that are paying to run the business. I can imagine that the companies who have placed these donations would be pleased to hear this and the taxman maybe would as well as all corporate charitable donations are tax deductable (in effect none of the money would be going to good causes). I sincerely hope your assumption of how P4C works is wrong because if it is right it is contravening several laws.

Of that i declare ignorance i have no idea bout the laws governing charity's.

I don't see how that would be the case though, good thing i am not a trustee! lol

[Royal Flush]

They have their fixed costs, and they try and raise as much as they can.

It's not as if they take all donations, and decide to spend 70% of them.


The issue as I see it is could these fixed costs be trimmed right down. A poker tournament raising 1.8k should be put on for less than 900 quid?

like my post said that i took down this is simmilar and not copied from p4c site
   
£320 on a buffett i rekon that all wouldda rathered money go to good cause
nearly £270 on hotels and a room for a tournament director?wtf ,,,,wsop?
nearly £170 on 9 trophies for final table ...riddiculous in my eyes
nearly £190 on hire of a van and tables which p4c already own both of but they decided to hire them ?
this is almost £1000 i dont think should have been spent on this small tourney
if im wrong im wrong  but i dont think so.......
but as having had my own business since i was 14 this is not good accounting i

My 2 pence.

£320 seems over the top for the buffet.

4 nights of hotel rooms seems fair, you can't really expect Angie, Davey and Mel to only spend 1 night in Cardiff.

£170 for 9/10 trophies seems reasonable to me

£190 to transport the tables from Newcastle to Cardiff and back again doesn't seem OTT to me.

[sofa----king]

They have their fixed costs, and they try and raise as much as they can.

It's not as if they take all donations, and decide to spend 70% of them.


The issue as I see it is could these fixed costs be trimmed right down. A poker tournament raising 1.8k should be put on for less than 900 quid?

like my post said that i took down this is simmilar and not copied from p4c site
   
£320 on a buffett i rekon that all wouldda rathered money go to good cause
nearly £270 on hotels and a room for a tournament director?wtf ,,,,wsop?
nearly £170 on 9 trophies for final table ...riddiculous in my eyes
nearly £190 on hire of a van and tables which p4c already own both of but they decided to hire them ?
this is almost £1000 i dont think should have been spent on this small tourney
if im wrong im wrong  but i dont think so.......
but as having had my own business since i was 14 this is not good accounting i

My 2 pence.

£320 seems over the top for the buffet.

4 nights of hotel rooms seems fair, you can't really expect Angie, Davey and Mel to only spend 1 night in Cardiff.

£170 for 9/10 trophies seems reasonable to me

£190 to transport the tables from Newcastle to Cardiff and back again doesn't seem OTT to me.

why 3 people to run a small tourney???why 2 nights were they visiting?
why the hell 9 trophies and not just 2 you only get 2 in the wsop main event
they have a van just over the bridge with their tables in it  THE oneeye told us

[suzanne]

I have to say that I was a bit taken back by the buffet charge as this is unusual.

On the 3 events I went to, 2 of them had snacks/meals that could be bought over the bar. The 3rd had an OUTSTANDING buffet that was donated by the casino and we were ASKED to donate a fiver to eat as much as we wanted.

Buffet charges are not the norm.

[Colchester Kev]

Must be some fkin bridge if it goes from Cardiff to Newquay !!

[sofa----king]

Must be some fkin bridge if it goes from Cardiff to Newquay !!

2 hours 30 min driving say 3 hours=6hours driving total around about ...£50 maximum in deisel £5 bridge
       i know i send a van there twice a week to jeff williams furniture (plug jeff lol)

[ariston]

OK lets put this into real basic terms so everyone understands.

After being shamed into giving the money to the people who deserved it from the Western gig is it possible there is still a "kitty" of cash awaiting distribution from other events? If so how much. If not where has the money gone.

 All this should be quite simple to clarify by simply making available the charities records/accounts (something If I am right in my understanding of the UK charity laws should be available for scrutiny if requested). If you don't want to publish the accounts on blonde that is understandable but at least answer the question- are there any accounts? Are there receipts for expenditure etc.

The spend on the Cardiff event was ridiculous IMO- how many other events were missmanaged in this way and run at a virtual loss?

17 days is a long time guys and people are getting even more restless and feeling more uncomfortable with this situation than we all were before.

[Royal Flush]

why 3 people to run a small tourney???why 2 nights were they visiting?
why the hell 9 trophies and not just 2 you only get 2 in the wsop main event
they have a van just over the bridge with their tables in it  THE oneeye told us

Mel was the 1 person running the tournament, Davey does things like running an auction / sell us tat. Angie helps Mel out during the rebuys by being a chip runner and she also sorts the raffle out.

As for 2 nights, when exactly do you expect Angie and Davey to travel? They live in Newcastle, its quite a distance from Cardiff. I am fairly sure Mel is not local to Cardiff either!

You may be right about 9 trophies being too much, i have never thought about it tbh.

I am pretty sure the tables are kept in Newcastle or St Helens, it may be Cornwall but i don't think so.

[thetank]

With regard to the 3 people's hotel, even bearing in mind it was expected to be a larger comp, maybe one hotel room woulda been enough, and volunteer's  (either local or travelling anyway) can assist with the running of things.

Trophy's for the top nine is a nice touch, and I was quite chuffed with mine, I assumed it was a couple of quids worth though, didn't think it would all add up to as much as 170, that's a little OTT I think.

The buffet seems to be the biggest and most obvious way to cut back though. Did it come from a hotel mini bar?

I suppose, fair play to P4C for releasing these uncomplimentary figures. The others will be interesting when they come, and eagerly awaited.

[sofa----king]

why 3 people to run a small tourney???why 2 nights were they visiting?
why the hell 9 trophies and not just 2 you only get 2 in the wsop main event
they have a van just over the bridge with their tables in it  THE oneeye told us

Mel was the 1 person running the tournament, Davey does things like running an auction / sell us tat. Angie helps Mel out during the rebuys by being a chip runner and she also sorts the raffle out.

As for 2 nights, when exactly do you expect Angie and Davey to travel? They live in Newcastle, its quite a distance from Cardiff. I am fairly sure Mel is not local to Cardiff either!

You may be right about 9 trophies being too much, i have never thought about it tbh.

I am pretty sure the tables are kept in Newcastle or St Helens, it may be Cornwall but i don't think so.

you know what i feel like giving up with this but no,no,no coz the amount of personal messages i get everyday by people who are scared to speak their mind thanking me for keeping this thing live and asking me to ask questions on behalf of them.... NO I WONT STOP royal flush ireally think you should take a long look at the whole topic mate this started off by a woman who was embarrassed to ask for what was hers (in affect)for a sick child.it has taken 7 months to get some sort of payment after a fashion.
and now blonde members want to know where their money is gone ?do you think itsright that Davey wont answer on this topic??? people want to know ...to be really honest with all of you on Blondie i couldn't give a f-ck where the moneys gone  I HAVE NEVER EVER GIVEN anything to p4c and wouldn't from the off.all i was concerned about was  that Reece got what he deserved,but i am being asked by a lot of people to find out for them >>>  e.g WELL KNOWN PEOPLE PLEASE,PLEASE KEEP IT ALIVE DONT LET THE THREAD DIE, i cant ask coz blah blah blah well i will ask coz for one i ain't scared of ANYONE  and these people know it .this is why i ask i better go now coz i am getting angry and remember what the HULK used to say......................

[RED-DOG]

remember what the HULK used to say......................

"I've ripped my pants again?"

[sofa----king]

remember what the HULK used to say......................

"I've ripped my pants again?"

youd chit yours if you could see me now,im just starting to go green

[RED-DOG]

remember what the HULK used to say......................

"I've ripped my pants again?"

youd chit yours if you could see me now,im just starting to go green

If you hit me and I find out about it.......

[thetank]

Are you a spokeshulk sofa?