New Session Charge At Grosvenor

[Royal Flush]

Can anyone confirm if this is true ?  £5 entry for a £20 rebuy seems very steep.

Not just steep, unbeatable in the long run.

Unless you have more than a 25% edge on the field.
lol.

I couldn't disagree more.

It's not 25% on the pool, its 25% on the first buyin. Average spend on a £20 rebuy is easily over £50, lets say £60, £60+5 seems like a good deal to me.

Thats true, and lessens the effect but on FO's its true.

Good thing most comps are rebuys then!

[tikay]

I want to play Tournament Poker in Venues where....

It's clean, & warm.

There is free tea, coffee, soft drinks, bikkies & sarnies.

The tables, chairs, chips & cards are half-decent.

The sort of Events I enjoy playing are facilitated, and they (The Venues) are open to well-intended suggestions from the players.

Well-trained House Dealers are provided.

A "controlled playing environment" is provided, including a comptent Card Room Manager who affords players the protection & implementation of the Rules.

I get an enjoyable Evening's fun & entertainment in reasonably convivial company & relaxing surroundings.

To pay a Registration Fee to ensure I get all that seems most reasonable to me.

[Royal Flush]

I want to play Tournament Poker in Venues where....

It's clean, & warm.

There is free tea, coffee, soft drinks, bikkies & sarnies.

The tables, chairs, chips & cards are half-decent.

The sort of Events I enjoy playing are facilitated, and they (The Venues) are open to well-intended suggestions from the players.

Well-trained House Dealers are provided.

A "controlled playing environment" is provided, including a comptent Card Room Manager who affords players the protection & implementation of the Rules.

I get an enjoyable Evening's fun & entertainment in reasonably convivial company & relaxing surroundings.

To pay a Registration Fee to ensure I get all that seems most reasonable to me.

A point made perfectly, we have been very lucky to have such cheap fee's for a long time.

When this debated first started a while back when the rules changed there was a question of would you pay i think £5 juice on a £10 rebuy, i still say yes as the service provided is easily worth more than £5.

[booder]

I want to play Tournament Poker in Venues where....

It's clean, & warm.

There is free tea, coffee, soft drinks, bikkies & sarnies.

The tables, chairs, chips & cards are half-decent.

The sort of Events I enjoy playing are facilitated, and they (The Venues) are open to well-intended suggestions from the players.

Well-trained House Dealers are provided.

A "controlled playing environment" is provided, including a comptent Card Room Manager who affords players the protection & implementation of the Rules.

I get an enjoyable Evening's fun & entertainment in reasonably convivial company & relaxing surroundings.

To pay a Registration Fee to ensure I get all that seems most reasonable to me.

play online then     

[tikay]

I want to play Tournament Poker in Venues where....

It's clean, & warm.

There is free tea, coffee, soft drinks, bikkies & sarnies.

The tables, chairs, chips & cards are half-decent.

The sort of Events I enjoy playing are facilitated, and they (The Venues) are open to well-intended suggestions from the players.

Well-trained House Dealers are provided.

A "controlled playing environment" is provided, including a comptent Card Room Manager who affords players the protection & implementation of the Rules.

I get an enjoyable Evening's fun & entertainment in reasonably convivial company & relaxing surroundings.

To pay a Registration Fee to ensure I get all that seems most reasonable to me.

play online then     

Behave, Boo.

To be fair, most Venues do indeed look after us pretty well, imo.

[snoopy1239]

Just came upon this while browsing another forum.  It appears that from January onwards that Grosvenor casinos will no longer be charging a registration fee but will instead be charging a "Session" fee

Could someone explain the difference between a registration fee and a session fee please.

[tikay]

Just came upon this while browsing another forum.  It appears that from January onwards that Grosvenor casinos will no longer be charging a registration fee but will instead be charging a "Session" fee

Could someone explain the difference between a registration fee and a session fee please.

No idea snoops, sounds like semantics to me.

[snoopy1239]

When you pay a 'session' fee in cash games, you pay by the hour. I hope they aren't considering a similar scheme (ie. you pay every 3 hours) in the tournaments too.

[TightEnd]

SESSION FEES are a cash game terminology

REG FEES a tourney terminology

thus far in the UK this has been the case

however Session Fees, if applied to a torurnament, allow the venue to charge by time, eg by the hour, in tournaments

[RED-DOG]

I want to play Tournament Poker in Venues where....

It's clean, & warm.

There is free tea, coffee, soft drinks, bikkies & sarnies.

The tables, chairs, chips & cards are half-decent.

The sort of Events I enjoy playing are facilitated, and they (The Venues) are open to well-intended suggestions from the players.

Well-trained House Dealers are provided.

A "controlled playing environment" is provided, including a comptent Card Room Manager who affords players the protection & implementation of the Rules.

I get an enjoyable Evening's fun & entertainment in reasonably convivial company & relaxing surroundings.

To pay a Registration Fee to ensure I get all that seems most reasonable to me.

You forgot to mention Muzak and the odd stray Drifter.

[Acidmouse]

Crapola, £3 juic for my weekly £10 freeout seems absurd. They make shitloads having 100+ more peeps there on an otherwise quiet night.

Defo think twice if it goes upto this level out of principle.

[snoopy1239]

SESSION FEES are a cash game terminology

REG FEES a tourney terminology

thus far in the UK this has been the case

however Session Fees, if applied to a torurnament, allow the venue to charge by time, eg by the hour, in tournaments

so are the rates given in the opening post going to be hourly fees?!

[phatomch]

These session fees are being charged because the casino's can now legally charge what they want. They have run at a loss for such a long time that it seems fair that they should now be able to charge more, which can only be in players intrest. The more revenue the casino make the more money they can invest back into the game and equipment/ staff. These charges will only be a one off ( not charged hourly). If you try playing any specialist past time such as snooker would you grumble at paying £3 for 8 hrs useage of equipment, staff free food/ drink. i think it is a very fair charge.

[Royal Flush]

SESSION FEES are a cash game terminology

REG FEES a tourney terminology

thus far in the UK this has been the case

however Session Fees, if applied to a torurnament, allow the venue to charge by time, eg by the hour, in tournaments

so are the rates given in the opening post going to be hourly fees?!

1 off fee's

They can charge for entry to the cardroom as well i believe.

Crapola, £3 juic for my weekly £10 freeout seems absurd. They make shitloads having 100+ more peeps there on an otherwise quiet night.

Defo think twice if it goes upto this level out of principle.

Yeah £3 for a whole nights service, how dare they!

[snoopy1239]

Welcome to blonde.

I agree with what you say, in the grand scheme of things, it would be a fair price, especially when many don't play the 'house games'.

However, when these fees are implemented then surely the standard of service will have to increase too...

ps. I'm not sure casinos are running at a loss though.