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« on: September 17, 2005, 06:17:34 PM »

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just a quick one i play both live & net alot

i have a bit of a prob iam doing very well live showing a good final table ratio 76% of all live games i enter
with a top 3 finish 84% of that for the year. But on the net iam showing up as a very bad player i was wondering if anyone else was suffering with this or if you other players have had the same prob and how you changed it around.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2005, 06:20:20 PM »

if you are making 76% of all finals and 84% top 3 then your either on a very short run blip or playing extrmmely small events or telling an untruth

a very good player would expect to make the money in MTT about 20-35% of the time although once making the money they expect to go deep
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2005, 06:21:59 PM »

hi all


just a quick one i play both live & net alot

i have a bit of a prob iam doing very well live showing a good final table ratio 76% of all live games i enter
with a top 3 finish 84% of that for the year. But on the net iam showing up as a very bad player i was wondering if anyone else was suffering with this or if you other players have had the same prob and how you changed it around.

If you really have that strike rate live, just play live!
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2005, 06:25:03 PM »

thats incredible!! - whats the sample?, 3 events?

I have done very well so far this year live and consider myslef to be a much better live player than a net player.  I have entered 102 live tourneys in 2005 making 21 finals.. thats 21% straike rate (however many of these tournaments have 100-200 runners.) -

are you playing events with few runners or just having a good run?
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2005, 06:29:39 PM »

i dont play against a strong field at all i play in alot of £10 & £5 rebuys in west yorkshire with only 40-60 runnerswhere if you play just tight you normally make the final table. when i play bigger tournies i dont any where as good i have only played 26 at  £100 or over and never made the cash.

so i know iam not a great player just have a bit more savey then the players i am against in these weak fields i play.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2005, 06:32:03 PM »

you should stick t beating these guys! - build up your dough and gradually branch out and play more big events.

advice for online play?: - dont ask me, i am a cyber fish!  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2005, 06:35:36 PM »

cheers junior thats what iam trying to do but everytime i get some cash car goes wrong or house needs something you know how it is.

perfect example i won over a grand this week and i walk out of the casino last night and someone hit me car and i was thinking about using that for a bigger game.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2005, 09:01:30 AM »

2004 was the same for me. it was my first year of live play and I made 10 finals out of 30 games. as a result of redundancy and a second child this year my bankroll got emptied and is still the same. I was constantly a losing / break even player online throughout that howle time. 1st fortnight I lost my job I made $2000 online but it soon swung vack downand I'd used too muich of the cash for bills to cope with the downswing. I have since improved and make a mopdest ammount online and what I've found is you have to treat it like a completely different game. There are plenty of players who do well both live and Online but I doubt they play the two games in the same way. Try a variety of games online (cash, MTT, STT, ladders/rounders) I found my online MTT is still not paying for me, though I persevere with satelittes to bigger freezeout games ($250+) because I feel sure sooner or later I'm going to have a few decent paydays with them. for me it's Ladders that are proving most profitable but I play them nothing at all like my live style.

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2005, 09:16:40 AM »

Since playing live (mostly £100 and over buy in MTT's), my online game has gone to pot - I am break even/small profit online where I used to make F/T more often than not.
My live game however is very profitable.

I know that both need to be approached in a different way, but still find it hard to do even though I know they should be played different.

This used to bother me, but as I enjoy live more and more, I do not let the online game affect my live game.

I posted something similar to this somewhere to ask how many players do well both live and online. I remember Mark Bannin telling me he was the same, either doing well online and bad live or visa versa.

Bottom line for me is - as long as I a doing well in one of them, I dont let it bother me too much.

Since playing live, I also now find it hard to keep concentration online and tend to make a huge mistake and blow my stack when into the money.

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2005, 11:11:30 AM »

i seem to do better online ive won quite alot online but not so live. i put it down to that i first started playing online and got used to it. i then started playing live and found that i was quite tight. but i only play live probably twice a month at most.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2005, 02:22:19 PM »

hi all


just a quick one i play both live & net alot

i have a bit of a prob iam doing very well live showing a good final table ratio 76% of all live games i enter
with a top 3 finish 84% of that for the year. But on the net iam showing up as a very bad player i was wondering if anyone else was suffering with this or if you other players have had the same prob and how you changed it around.

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2005, 02:40:24 PM »

IMHO you have to adjust your game for online/live play

Have a look at  http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=1016.msg24157#msg24157

This is only my opinion and applies to multi table tourneys

Good luck
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2005, 02:48:02 PM »

I'm making a steady amount on line at the moment playing cash games, and I often wonder if it will last.

Will every1 catch up? Will my steady profit decrease? Will the increase in numbers make my profit more difficult to obtain and more reliant on luck?

These questions will always be striking fear in the back of my mind.

However, one thing that's for sure is that there will always be people tilting.

So will it last? I think so...
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2005, 03:27:46 PM »

I really believe that you have to adjust your game for online/live swap overs. I never seem to have good form at both at the same time. Well my results say very rarely anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2005, 03:39:22 PM »

I have infinite patience live, never tilt, great temperament, good concentration

Online (whether because there are distractions?) I'm not as patient and I get riled up more

How do I get the dicipline in my online game that I have live? If I knew the answer to that.....

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