to slow play or not to slow play?

[temp0r]

you're at your 2nd final table of the day with 3 left. the cash prizes are very different in size.

1st - 550
2nd - 270
3rd - 180

the blinds are 4000/8000

you are on the button with 50,000
SB - 100,000
BB - 160,000

your dealt a lovely looking 

do you just push or flat call to get the best chance of doubling up and taking the higher cash prize?

[johnbhoy76]

you're at your 2nd final table of the day with 3 left. the cash prizes are very different in size.

1st - 550
2nd - 270
3rd - 180

the blinds are 4000/8000

you are on the button with 50,000
SB - 100,000
BB - 160,000

your dealt a lovely looking 

do you just push or flat call to get the best chance of doubling up and taking the higher cash prize?

It would really depend on what I had done in the last few hands.

If I had already pushed in a few times then I'd just do the same with the Kings and hope either blind says to themselves "enough is enough" and calls.

also what did these guys do the last time you limped from the button? did the just call/check or did they sense weakness and raise you? If the raised then I'd limp again and hope they take a dim view of your apparent weakness

Basically I would do whatever I thought would get one of them to commit 50,000 chips pre flop

[Horneris]

Id probably just make it 16,000 giving them the oppurtunity to re raise, or just call. Then id hope to not see an Ace on the flop. and push. They might do the pushing for me.

Only problem is though, this could make it look like obvious that you have a very strong hand. You might just want to push. Depends if theyre likely to call or not theyre playing style etc.

[sweet potata!]

Lamp the lot in !!!! if u raise any amount they know your fairly well committed anyway , also it might look fishy aswel that u have a monster , so imo its best just to push, it looks weaker thus will widen there range of calling hands which can only be good !

PS what do u do if u min raise and the flop brings an ace , and the bet into u ?

[boldie]

push..don't slow play Kings They might think it's a button move and call anyways..but slow playing can only get you into trouble.

[WellChief]

Never slow play kings?  Thats a strange one. 

As others have said do whatever you think will allow you to get all your chips in preflop or on the flop.  If you have been button limping a lot then you can limp and you might see a flop or one of the blinds might fancy taking it off you and commit themselves to the pot.  If you have always raised on the button a limp will look suspicious.  If you have raised and folded to reraises previously then you could try min raising, you will be reraised all in by any ace most likely and worse hands as well.  If you've been continually pushing then push again, they will call with any decent holding.

[doubleup]

Any hand that will call an allin will call a miniraise and a lot will probably push.  The only problem with miniraising or limping is an ace high flop. 

[Highstack]

Jam!

New stack sizes are 62/96/152 even if you don't get a call. It increases your stack by 25% and the middle stack needs a strong hand to take you on with your stack sizes, compaatively closer from 2/1 to 6/4. If you get called that's a bonus.

With luck the big stack will take you on. He is getting 62/42 to call and he may think he has two live ones. You should be looking for first here as the jump is so much greater at 2nd to 1st than going from 3rd to 2nd.

[Royal Flush]

I don't see the relevance of how many finals you have made that day, unless you are short rolled, but then you shouldn't be in the comp.

jamming here is a play i hate, they need a hand to call, either 1 calls and they are crippled, i don't much like limping either unless 1 of the other 2 is a super lag.

I go with Horniers suggestion of the min raise, it almost assures you of an extra 8k in the pot, it also makes the pot bigger so if your oppo hits he has to double you up.

[temp0r]

the relevence of it being the second final table of the day is that the roll just got a boost. so taking the extra risk to try and make the first prize, which is stupidly highly than 3rd is more in order? or do we disagree on this?

basically i made a critical error in this hand where i limped. which i hadn't done from the button the whole final table. so my monsterness was probably apprent. i just figured kings was by far the best hand i was gonna get for the rest of the tournament and so short handed it was too huge to raise with. i might have got irratated without any action. given the size of my stack in comparison to the blinds and i figure taking the chance here was in order to make the highest cash possible. and also the BB was loose aggressive. unfortunately the flop of 887 hit his A8 rather nicely. and i wasn't folding when he set me in only the chance he only had the 7 or either flush or straight draws.
so turns out in this case i'd of been called if i'd of pushed anyway. but interesting to hear your opinions.

[Royal Flush]

Dunno if he would have called a push, but its good to limp vs a LAG in the BB so i think you made the better play (out of push or limp)

You should try to detract yourself from thinking about how big your roll is in a tournament, it will leads you to play less than optimal. If you find yourself doing this then move down a level where you are not concerned about the cash.