Gutshot lose Court case Skills fight... Derek Kelly found Guilty!

[Suited_Jock]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6267603.stm

Man guilty in poker skills case 
 
Derek Kelly tried to prove poker is a game of skill
A man has been found guilty of running unlicensed poker games.
Derek Kelly, 46, said he did not need a licence under the 1968 Gaming Act as the law requires it only for games of chance but poker is a game of skill.

But the jury at Snaresbrook Crown Court took less than two hours to find him guilty of organising the games at his Gutshot Club in central London.

The prosecution said he took a cut from the prize pot as well as charging the players for participating
 

[KingPoker]

that is going to have MAJOR implications

[Royal Flush]

Why is it a sad day? Do you think illegal clubs are good for poker?

[Jim-D]

Why is it a sad day? Do you think illegal clubs are good for poker?

10.000

[Royal Flush]

lol damn just realised i was not supposed to post so went to delete but you caught me!!!

Was going to write a nice GPT trip report for #10k.

[Eck]

lol damn just realised i was not supposed to post so went to delete but you caught me!!!

Was going to write a nice GPT trip report for #10k.

Muppet 

[Jim-D]

Shall we both delete?

[TightEnd]

good news: Grosvenor, licenced casinos.
                 DTD if it gets licence

bad news: gutshot and other unlicensed clubs

for players, on balance, in that it reduces competition bad news. 


Not simply bad news for everyone surely? 

[Suited_Jock]

Well sad is probably the wrong word but there are a lot of clubs gonna face more scrutiny after this ruling. Surely with the view to shutting down all sole poker rooms outside casinos. With the obvious exception of dusk til dawn which whilst is very exciting isn't exactly local for me.

[pokerdave69]

Damn i was looking forward to try and pull a bird over a game of cards. Never mind 

[boldie]

good news: Grosvenor, licenced casinos.
                 DTD if it gets licence

bad news: gutshot and other unlicensed clubs

for players, on balance, in that it reduces competition bad news. 


Not simply bad news for everyone surely? 

To be honest I view it as good news, as long as the GC now gets its finger out and works on licencing for pokerclubs faster.
We need some sort of rules which pokerclubs need to adhere to but it should not be impossible to get a license so the ball is now firmly in the GC's court.

[AndrewT]

good news: Grosvenor, licenced casinos.
                 DTD if it gets licence

bad news: gutshot and other unlicensed clubs

for players, on balance, in that it reduces competition bad news. 


Not simply bad news for everyone surely? 

I know it's parochial thinking, but it's bad for us here in London. Poker card clubs opened up here in numbers precisely because the offerings from fully licensed casinos didn't fulfill the demand. The Vic and The Sportsman and that's about it really (Loose Cannon status undecided). Anywhere else?

For me, with no car, Luton may as well be in Scotland.

[TightEnd]

Yes Andrew there are two levels of thinking here...the parochial (for me it is mixed..numbers at Luton will rise but I enjoy the Western for example...future unclear) and the wider (long term a more stable and broader licensed industry might result. Might)

[dik9]

Does anyone know whether it was the Skill v Luck or the Rake issue that was the problem?

[tikay]

Does anyone know whether it was the Skill v Luck or the Rake issue that was the problem?

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