More money for Premier League clubs

[The Baron]

Baron its a flat structure at the moment with the top getting £30 mill and the bottom getting £20mill (please correct me if i am wrong) so i dont think this will make a big difference.  Just a bit more extra money in eryones pocket.

You are correct about the current payout but...

To the Championship sides it will make a huge diffrence.

Even the gap between the top and bottom Premiership clubs will be widening with the new payout making the already predictable league even more boring.

[booder]

Rooky same with Newcastle - why such a low crowd?

because they are cra  not very good

[Royal Flush]

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPER LEAGUE!

[Rod Paradise]

Here's one for you Baron...

Is someone is now more liekly to come along and invest 25m in a club like Plymouth.

It looks a lot more financially viable now, if they can make it to the Prem league and get their cool 30m showing up money.

I see this as potentially bridging the gap, rather than extending it.

But the 30M if they do get up is going to have to be spent to compete. Unless someone gambles 25m to take Plymouth up, then refuses to spend and leaves the country having asset stripped ... but they'd be hated forever (and fans can get FAR to serious if they think you've fecked with their club, it could be hunted instead of hated).

[thetank]

I wasn't suggesting they do it to make a quick killing, a+EV oppurtunity, rather a double value 2 for the price of 1 in terms of squad strengthening investment. Anyone who does invest in football with the intention of making a quick killing is perhaps a bit of a mug anyway.
I always thought clubs were like model boats for bored multi-millionaires. They spend loads of cash, with litle hope of getting it back, it's just all about taking them down to the river and racing them. If I'm way off the mark on this then tell me.

Even in a couple seasons time, when the relegated teams come down with 30m in fun money, it may still be worth a punt wiith one of the championship sides because of this 2 for 1 thing. (For those in the market for remote control river racers anyway)

It will be intersting to see over the next few years how many relegated sides win instant re-promotion. I don't think the proportion will be quite as high as the Baron fears.

[Rod Paradise]

Ah - I get you now Tank.

There's a rumour going about that Sunderland are taking this gamble - if they miss they could be in the deep brown & smelly for some time though....

[The Baron]

Ah - I get you now Tank.

There's a rumour going about that Sunderland are taking this gamble - if they miss they could be in the deep brown & smelly for some time though....

That wouldn't surprise me one bit but as I said earlier in the thread I doubt they're the only club doing it.

Mandaric at Leicester, Bates at Leeds, Risdale at Cardiff and now it's looks as though maybe even Souness at Wolves.

[thetank]

So the likely end result is that it will be a high class, very competitive league.

Why is this bad again?

[The Baron]

Why will it be competitive?

The current payout between top and bottom is £10 million per season (not including how much you are shown on TV) and this gap is going to widen to £20 million.

The league will become LESS competitive.

In Italy, Milan and Juventus now broker their TV rights individually. (Well they did until last season's cheating scandal.) By doing this they essentially made the league a 2 horse race.

We are going down a similar path. Not to mention the gap beween our league and a) the leagues below and b) the foreign leagues.

[Nem]

Baron its a flat structure at the moment with the top getting £30 mill and the bottom getting £20mill (please correct me if i am wrong) so i dont think this will make a big difference.  Just a bit more extra money in eryones pocket.

I think the worrying thing is that attendances are in the most majority down and something needs to be looked into this- maybe by subsidising matches.

Last nite, although they were only replays, i noticed that Tottenham and Newcastle had only 27,000 each.  That really shocked me for these two clubs.  I think if Arsenal too had an early round replay we would be nowhere near capacity.(Actually maybe not as our first 7 FA Cup and CL matches are included in our season ticket)

Nem - was your match last nite a Category A match?  Surely it could have been subsidised a bit?

Rooky same with Newcastle - why such a low crowd?

The Premier League wont be this good forever and these clubs need to be a little careful with all the money they are getting now?  I mean Chelsea's wage bill, what a joke!  John Terry £120-150k a year!!

and West Ham supposedly paying Lucas Neill if he signs £60,000.

The world has gone mad!!

Tottenham only had 27,000 due to 3 factors

1: Crowd segregation

2: Cardiff not taking full allocation

3: It being Cardiff at home.

John Terry is on 150k per week not a year!

What do you think of The FA giving in to their favourite bitch (David Dein) over our allocation of tickets at the Library next week?

League cup rules:

1: Are you able to accomdate 15% of travelling fans if you reach the semi final? Yes, but not if it is against Tottenham Hotspur. We cannot have 9,000 fans out singing the 60,000 prawn sandwich brigade!

[dan]

Baron its a flat structure at the moment with the top getting £30 mill and the bottom getting £20mill (please correct me if i am wrong) so i dont think this will make a big difference.  Just a bit more extra money in eryones pocket.

I think the worrying thing is that attendances are in the most majority down and something needs to be looked into this- maybe by subsidising matches.

Last nite, although they were only replays, i noticed that Tottenham and Newcastle had only 27,000 each.  That really shocked me for these two clubs.  I think if Arsenal too had an early round replay we would be nowhere near capacity.(Actually maybe not as our first 7 FA Cup and CL matches are included in our season ticket)

Nem - was your match last nite a Category A match?  Surely it could have been subsidised a bit?

Rooky same with Newcastle - why such a low crowd?

The Premier League wont be this good forever and these clubs need to be a little careful with all the money they are getting now?  I mean Chelsea's wage bill, what a joke!  John Terry £120-150k a year!!

and West Ham supposedly paying Lucas Neill if he signs £60,000.

The world has gone mad!!

Tottenham only had 27,000 due to 3 factors

1: Crowd segregation

2: Cardiff not taking full allocation

3: It being Cardiff at home.

John Terry is on 150k per week not a year!

What do you think of The FA giving in to their favourite bitch (David Dein) over our allocation of tickets at the Library next week?

League cup rules:

1: Are you able to accomdate 15% of travelling fans if you reach the semi final? Yes, but not if it is against Tottenham Hotspur. We cannot have 9,000 fans out singing the 60,000 prawn sandwich brigade!

PMSL

Nem, it is well known that we are not the most vocal fans in the country but even we sing more than your fans and lets face it its a cup final for your fans everytime you play us. Spurs fans are very very quite every game ive been to but this could be due to the fact that you normally lose.

[dan]

Oh and just to add no you didnt get 15% but you got 8% ,5500 tickets, even if we had 15% of your tin pot ,toilet of a ground we would only have 5500 lol.

[Rooky9]

Shockingly low crowd midweek, I would guess at a comnination of: midweek, price, and the fact it was on tele supported the fact the team playing at the moment is not going to entertain. I didnt go, I was working away, but I cant honestly say i would have gone if I had been around.

[Triple X]

Baron its a flat structure at the moment with the top getting £30 mill and the bottom getting £20mill (please correct me if i am wrong) so i dont think this will make a big difference.  Just a bit more extra money in eryones pocket.

I think the worrying thing is that attendances are in the most majority down and something needs to be looked into this- maybe by subsidising matches.

Last nite, although they were only replays, i noticed that Tottenham and Newcastle had only 27,000 each.  That really shocked me for these two clubs.  I think if Arsenal too had an early round replay we would be nowhere near capacity.(Actually maybe not as our first 7 FA Cup and CL matches are included in our season ticket)

Nem - was your match last nite a Category A match?  Surely it could have been subsidised a bit?

Rooky same with Newcastle - why such a low crowd?

The Premier League wont be this good forever and these clubs need to be a little careful with all the money they are getting now?  I mean Chelsea's wage bill, what a joke!  John Terry £120-150k a year!!

and West Ham supposedly paying Lucas Neill if he signs £60,000.

The world has gone mad!!

Tottenham only had 27,000 due to 3 factors

1: Crowd segregation

2: Cardiff not taking full allocation

3: It being Cardiff at home.

John Terry is on 150k per week not a year!

What do you think of The FA giving in to their favourite bitch (David Dein) over our allocation of tickets at the Library next week?

League cup rules:

1: Are you able to accomdate 15% of travelling fans if you reach the semi final? Yes, but not if it is against Tottenham Hotspur. We cannot have 9,000 fans out singing the 60,000 prawn sandwich brigade!

Obviously i meant £150k a week - i wish he was on £150k a year!!

Have you read the reasons why we only gave ur lot 8% rather than 15% - was coz in a new stadium we werent sure we were ready that quickly to deal with 9,000 fans - esepcially spurs fan!! Sounds a pretty pathetic reason

The other issue between the two teams is that we wanted to subsidise tickets as its a meaningless cup competition just there to give experience to our kids, whilst you guys want to make it a Category A match as its your equivalent of a Champions League Final!!!  The league ruled somewhere imbetween.  You didnt even want to give concessions to OAP's and kids - shame on u!!!

[Royal Flush]

Why is crowd attendance relevant?

Serie A has it right, get all the matches on telly so people can watch it at home/in the bar rather than freezing your ass off at the stadium.