I'll deliberately tune in to watch....Jade?

[Royal Flush]

white trash

It's just another way of saying trailer trash, it is not a slur based on race but on your social-economic grouping. Typically the uncultured/poor americans.

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I think white trash refers to certain group of individuals and not to the entire race.  It is a cultural reference not racial one, so calling someone white trash is not racist.

Just in the same way as if there is a pakistani gentleman I dont like, and I call HIM a "paki bastard" - THAT is against HIM and not against people from pakistan.

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Flushy has answered to your question in  away.  White trash is not a racist term while 'paki bastard' is.  If you can't see a difference between the two, no point of talking. 

[boldie]

I have to say I always think it's rather funny when white (middle aged?) fairly well off men complain about not being able to use term such as Paki Bastard...and how a term like white Trash is racist aswell.

If you can't see the difference between the two there really is something seriously wrong with you.

[FlyingPig]

My uncle is no racist - he is just of a certain age that I would say makes him and people like him exceptions.. I know its wrong but he will call a pakistani gentleman - Paki, and there is absolutely no intention to cause harm. He will call black people - Darkies. Does anyone have older relatives like this?

He is 70 and says it was the normal when he was younger, and its people nowadays who have developed the problem.

Yank - American. Australian - Aussie. Italians - Iti's. Danish - Danes. Pakistani - Paki.

[Mango99]

So what do you think of Jade and her two buddies?

Personally i agree with this quote taken from the the Sun editorial today -

""She has left the house with her true personality laid bare - a vile, pig-ignorant, racist bully consumed by envy of a woman of superior intelligence, beauty and class."

"

Couldn't agree more, and it's not often I can say that about something that was in the Sun!

[thetank]

Just in the same way as if there is a pakistani gentleman I dont like, and I call HIM a "paki bastard" - THAT is against HIM and not against people from pakistan.

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strongly disagree

You call someone a bastard you are attacking them.

You put paki alongside that attack, the implication is that part of the negative feelings you feel towards him, is because of his coming from Pakistan.

This can be and usually is extremely offensive for not only that man, but also others from that country.

It doesn't matter if you don't mean to be racist, when it comes to matters of insensitivity, all that matters is how you are percieved. If I went to school in this country, and kids who didn't even know me called me a paki bastard, it would be rather offensive if, when I grew up, adults are still using it against me.

(Pisses me off even more if I'm from India)

Hiding behind the technicality that the man is from Pakistan, and that is why you called him a Paki isn't going to wash with many. When used in the context of attacking him so, it is a very common racial slur, and completely unacceptable.



Another thing, if you don't like someone, why call them a bastard at all? Whatever happened to quietly getting on with it? (A little beside the point though)

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He is 70 and says it was the normal when he was younger, and its people nowadays who have developed the problem.

 

[thetank]

My uncle is no racist - he is just of a certain age that I would say makes him and people like him exceptions.. I know its wrong but he will call a pakistani gentleman - Paki, and there is absolutely no intention to cause harm. He will call black people - Darkies. Does anyone have older relatives like this?

Some of them darkies are nice enough, but I wouldn't want you to bring any home.

bless

[Sark79]

My uncle is no racist - he is just of a certain age that I would say makes him and people like him exceptions.. I know its wrong but he will call a pakistani gentleman - Paki, and there is absolutely no intention to cause harm. He will call black people - Darkies. Does anyone have older relatives like this?

My Gran used to say this.  One time we were in a ASDA lift and two black guys came in.  She was very deaf and in a loud voice said to me "Oh fancy, those two darkies must be here for the festival".  That weekend there was an African arts festival taking place in the local town hall.  She meant no harm by this and it was purely a generational thing.

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This thread is turning into the auction on 'how my grandma and grandpa are calling others "darkies' and don't mean any harm.'  Seriously ....

[KingPoker]

Maybe because i was brought up in the real world then i can add a realistic opinion.

Not that i agree with it but why shouldnt you call someone a paki bastard!

It doesnt differ from if i was overweight, that someone should call me a fat bastard.

It is commenting on your outward appearence which is not nice but it is an observational remark that has gone on since the start of time (in respect of using someones appearence in a degredative way!)

And why do we now feel that it is up to us to slap the wrists of people who do this. As long as you dont participate in it yourself you can still sleep at night.

Im just tired of this censored, politically correct bullshit time that we live in. I dont agree with racism in any way, shape or form but i dont believe in people having to worry about saying one comment which might slightly upset someone. Do u think it will bother shilka. NO- Because she knows deep down that she is a much better person who is secure and proud of who she is.

[The_Ant]

Do u think it will bother shilka. NO- Because she knows deep down that she is a much better person who is secure and proud of who she is.

It's Shilpa....you illiterate bastard!   

[Jim-D]

Maybe because i was brought up in the real world then i can add a realistic opinion.

Not that i agree with it but why shouldnt you call someone a paki bastard!

Are you taking the piss?

[barhell]

Maybe because i was brought up in the real world then i can add a realistic opinion.

Not that i agree with it but why shouldnt you call someone a paki bastard!

Are you taking the piss?

That would be a piss taking bastard

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Maybe because i was brought up in the real world then i can add a realistic opinion.

Not that i agree with it but why shouldnt you call someone a paki bastard!




Are you taking the piss?
That would be a piss taking bastard