Royal Flush
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« on: March 14, 2007, 05:26:28 AM » |
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The dreaded last hand of the night, its £2-£2-£5-£10 PLO high. Seat 1 has £180 Seat 2 has £900 Seat 3 has £1500 Seat 4 has £1500 Seat 5 has £500 Action pre flop seat 5 folds seats 1-3 call the 10 and seat 4 makes it £30, all call. You are in seat 2 with  The flop comes  You check, seat 3 checks, seat 4 now fires £100 and seat 1 calls leaving £50 back. What is your play now and why? If you flat call the 100 and now seat 3 re-raise to £300 total and is met with a call from seat 4 and seat 1 how do you play and why?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2007, 07:10:15 AM » |
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i can't imagine you checked to just call so i'm going with a raise
raising the pot here makes you very committed. not that i see that as a problem. you have to imagine you're even or ahead here. but if you have over half your stack in there on the flop no-one will want to chase you with a lower flush draw (unless its a loose table - you dont state).
i don't think min-raising is the worst play in the world here really. you build the pot. possibly slow seat 3 down and get a bit more info from seat 4. i think raising to 300 would do the same but would leave you with less options if re-raised or bet into on the turn so would rather min-raise.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2007, 11:30:21 AM » |
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I'm all in after all that action and BY GOD I hope they all call....and then I pray the board doesn't pair.
It's quite clear 2 of them should be having trips + a FD. but you are drawing to the absolute stone fecking cold nuts with your straight and your FD.
I would pick up a massive pot if I were to hit here and I'm willing to risk that and the possibility fo the board pairing up.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2007, 02:12:28 PM » |
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you can't go all in here though! the most you can raise leaves half your stack back.
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boldie
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2007, 02:17:51 PM » |
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how does the max bet leave half your stack back? I read this as Flushy having 900 in front of him when the hand starts.
120£ goes in pre-flop, 4 people (including flushy call the 100£ bet on the flop) so that's 520 in there.
a reraise to 300 and a call. this leaves plenty in the pot to get your remaining 770 in, or am I wrong?
Anyways..I'll stick as much in as possible right here and now.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 02:29:37 PM » |
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i agree with Boldie , i am all in here
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 02:36:59 PM » |
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oh i thought you meant going all-in before the call and re-raise action. no worries.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2007, 03:30:55 PM » |
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I would just call the 300 - you need 16+ outs to go heads up with a set. Although the dead money still makes this profitable. The only debate is whether you could knock out another 78 with a reraise - but this also might get another flush draw to fold - so probably not much to be gained.
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Ironside
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 05:21:51 PM » |
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i fold preflop with a hand thats not even marginal you flop a set you could always be drawing to one out via a bigger set you have an ace with no kicker so its useless and is only good for the flush you only have 2 connecting cards so straight draws arent good ones )likea complete wrap)
basically i dont know what i would do as i wouldnt be in the pot with a hand with limited possiblity that were always going to get you into trouble
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 05:48:06 PM » |
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i fold preflop with a hand thats not even marginal you flop a set you could always be drawing to one out via a bigger set you have an ace with no kicker so its useless and is only good for the flush you only have 2 connecting cards so straight draws arent good ones )likea complete wrap)
basically i dont know what i would do as i wouldnt be in the pot with a hand with limited possiblity that were always going to get you into trouble
Perfect hand for James then ? lol
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 06:44:45 PM » |
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No brainer for me, ship it in, cross your fingers, dance around the cardroom with your shirt over your head when you hit one of your outs to sink the made hands 
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Royal Flush
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2007, 09:31:33 PM » |
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i fold preflop with a hand thats not even marginal you flop a set you could always be drawing to one out via a bigger set you have an ace with no kicker so its useless and is only good for the flush you only have 2 connecting cards so straight draws arent good ones )likea complete wrap)
basically i dont know what i would do as i wouldnt be in the pot with a hand with limited possiblity that were always going to get you into trouble
Don't play deep stacked 5 handed much? No-one opts for calling the £200 extra? It's what i did leaving £450 back, i am certain i am up against a set and if the board pairs on the turn i can get out, if it doesn't then i will check call any bet (hope for checked around!) Of course if i hit i can fire in my 450. As it happened the 2 paired the turn so i got out of it with some money left. Player 3 had quad 2's and player 4 had a set of sixes! Pretty sick hand.
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Ironside
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 10:13:47 PM » |
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not really deep stacked with the shorty ony having 18bb with it being a trckless 5 handed game i would prefer to play even tighter than normal knowing when i do hit i will get paid
i can honestly say once all the hands are reveled if everyone gets all in you will be lucky if your getting the correct odds
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2007, 10:35:01 PM » |
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not really deep stacked with the shorty ony having 18bb with it being a trckless 5 handed game i would prefer to play even tighter than normal knowing when i do hit i will get paid
i can honestly say once all the hands are reveled if everyone gets all in you will be lucky if your getting the correct odds
Str8 and flush draw against 2 sets? HUUUUUUUUGE
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2007, 10:47:35 PM » |
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if you had that draw v 2 sets then depends on who has the sets on how big you are
now if the 2 bigger stacks have the sets then your ok you will get more than pot odds on the call
i really dont like the call preflop but obviously when you hit the flop your looking good unless the other players have some of your outs i think you could be ranging anywhere fom 35% to 60% to win the pot
if the 2 1500 stacks have the sets then your getting great odds to make the call but i still dont like it
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