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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2007, 11:22:06 PM »

You can't buy that s**t in the shops.
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2007, 11:35:15 PM »

i think when sark says DD he means dangerous driver (hint in the title) I don't think even a fictitous forum bot such as sark would be getting in a car with a drunk driver, at least i hope not..


Yep, DD = Dangerous Driver  Cheesy . It is just the shortened version.   Nope, I would never get in a car with a drunk/drug driver.
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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2007, 11:42:45 PM »

the dangerous drive aspect needs to be witnessed by a copper, so if you report a dangerous driver, potentially not a lot may happen....but the Polce may still make enqs etc. If there is further evidence ie CCTV. Dangerous drive carries with it a 2year sentance.....then death by dangerous driving is 14 years. This has become a very serious social issue, which echoes with the sentances. The bottom line is.....family or friend....if they killed someone how would you feel. It has become such a morality issue....You shouldnt do it...report those that do...You could be a very good driver, wth plenty of training. But for every cause there is an effect and you cant control everything that happens. For instance, emergency response drivers, there just as accountable as everybody else.
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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2007, 12:41:50 AM »

EVERY TIME one of my step-daughters from my 1st marriage was hit by a driver speeding in a built up area (he lost control and mounted the pavemant, not drunk just reckless). Result: Both legs amputated life in a wheelchair.
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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2007, 12:54:34 AM »

That says it all....
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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2007, 01:42:54 AM »

So let me put forward a question to all of those that answered unequivocally yes...

you're in the pub with your mum for afternoon lunch during which she has 3 pints of beer and is marginally over the limit thus rendering her legally unfit to drive.

after remonstrating with her not to drive home she does so regardless, in keeping with your concern for the well being of other road users am i correct in assuming that all of you in favour of reporting a friend or family member under these circumstances would then phone up the police and inform them of your mothers actions?

I'm interested to see firstly who from the initial proponents of informing the authorities answers and secondly how veracious they are in doing so.
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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2007, 01:45:37 AM »

So let me put forward a question to all of those that answered unequivocally yes...

you're in the pub with your mum for afternoon lunch during which she has 3 pints of beer and is marginally over the limit thus rendering her legally unfit to drive.

after remonstrating with her not to drive home she does so regardless, in keeping with your concern for the well being of other road users am i correct in assuming that all of you in favour of reporting a friend or family member under these circumstances would then phone up the police and inform them of your mothers actions?

I'm interested to see firstly who from the initial proponents of informing the authorities answers and secondly how veracious they are in doing so.

I'd take the keys off her if she was adamant she was going to drive.

I think the idea of reporting someone to the police put forward by many posters, is based on habitual dangerous driving, rather than on a one-off incident.  Might be wrong though.

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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2007, 01:49:53 AM »

So let me put forward a question to all of those that answered unequivocally yes...

you're in the pub with your mum for afternoon lunch during which she has 3 pints of beer and is marginally over the limit thus rendering her legally unfit to drive.

after remonstrating with her not to drive home she does so regardless, in keeping with your concern for the well being of other road users am i correct in assuming that all of you in favour of reporting a friend or family member under these circumstances would then phone up the police and inform them of your mothers actions?

I'm interested to see firstly who from the initial proponents of informing the authorities answers and secondly how veracious they are in doing so.

I'd take the keys off her if she was adamant she was going to drive.

I think the idea of reporting someone to the police put forward by many posters, is based on habitual dangerous driving, rather than on a one-off incident.  Might be wrong though.


There were at least two people who answered yes to the friend or family question before sark even outlined the specifics of the situation, also the term: "everytime" has been used by three separate posters.
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« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2007, 01:53:47 AM »

So under no circumstances would you ever report them?
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« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2007, 01:55:36 AM »

There is a problem here.

The police wont do anything just because people claim hes a bad driver or has DD before.

They need to catch him in the act. This causes a huge difficulty and complication.

Its the sad fact of the matter that youre gona have to wait till he has an accident which hurts himself or worse someone else and has been DD or driving like a complete prick.
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« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2007, 01:57:15 AM »

So under no circumstances would you ever report them?


yep, that's where i am.



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« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2007, 01:58:16 AM »

So let me put forward a question to all of those that answered unequivocally yes...

you're in the pub with your mum for afternoon lunch during which she has 3 pints of beer and is marginally over the limit thus rendering her legally unfit to drive.

after remonstrating with her not to drive home she does so regardless, in keeping with your concern for the well being of other road users am i correct in assuming that all of you in favour of reporting a friend or family member under these circumstances would then phone up the police and inform them of your mothers actions?

I'm interested to see firstly who from the initial proponents of informing the authorities answers and secondly how veracious they are in doing so.

I'd take the keys off her if she was adamant she was going to drive.

I think the idea of reporting someone to the police put forward by many posters, is based on habitual dangerous driving, rather than on a one-off incident.  Might be wrong though.



If she slipped off before you could get the keys from her would you phone the police?
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« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2007, 02:02:35 AM »

So let me put forward a question to all of those that answered unequivocally yes...

you're in the pub with your mum for afternoon lunch during which she has 3 pints of beer and is marginally over the limit thus rendering her legally unfit to drive.

after remonstrating with her not to drive home she does so regardless, in keeping with your concern for the well being of other road users am i correct in assuming that all of you in favour of reporting a friend or family member under these circumstances would then phone up the police and inform them of your mothers actions?

I'm interested to see firstly who from the initial proponents of informing the authorities answers and secondly how veracious they are in doing so.

I'd take the keys off her if she was adamant she was going to drive.

I think the idea of reporting someone to the police put forward by many posters, is based on habitual dangerous driving, rather than on a one-off incident.  Might be wrong though.



If she slipped off before you could get the keys from her would you phone the police?

It'll have to be a hypothetical question, as I know my Mum would never drink and drive.

So, if for whatever reason she does what you've said in your question - and she slips away and drives home over the limit.  I wouldn't report her.

I might take the keys off her permanently.  I might threaten to report her.

BUT - I have friends with family that are alcoholics, and the habitually drink and drive.  My friends have reported them to the police - for their safety and the safety of others.  A tough thing to do, but the right thing ultimately.  I'd hope I'd have the balls to do the same if I was in their situation.
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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2007, 02:10:10 AM »

So let me put forward a question to all of those that answered unequivocally yes...

you're in the pub with your mum for afternoon lunch during which she has 3 pints of beer and is marginally over the limit thus rendering her legally unfit to drive.

after remonstrating with her not to drive home she does so regardless, in keeping with your concern for the well being of other road users am i correct in assuming that all of you in favour of reporting a friend or family member under these circumstances would then phone up the police and inform them of your mothers actions?

I'm interested to see firstly who from the initial proponents of informing the authorities answers and secondly how veracious they are in doing so.

I'd take the keys off her if she was adamant she was going to drive.

I think the idea of reporting someone to the police put forward by many posters, is based on habitual dangerous driving, rather than on a one-off incident.  Might be wrong though.



If she slipped off before you could get the keys from her would you phone the police?

It'll have to be a hypothetical question, as I know my Mum would never drink and drive.

So, if for whatever reason she does what you've said in your question - and she slips away and drives home over the limit.  I wouldn't report her.

I might take the keys off her permanently.  I might threaten to report her.

BUT - I have friends with family that are alcoholics, and the habitually drink and drive.  My friends have reported them to the police - for their safety and the safety of others.  A tough thing to do, but the right thing ultimately.  I'd hope I'd have the balls to do the same if I was in their situation.


What if you and your mum were in the pub having lunch drinking coke all afternoon and you saw a guy have 3 pints and then go outside and drive off, would you honestly take the time to note his number plate or details and inform the police?
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« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2007, 02:26:42 AM »

So let me put forward a question to all of those that answered unequivocally yes...

you're in the pub with your mum for afternoon lunch during which she has 3 pints of beer and is marginally over the limit thus rendering her legally unfit to drive.

after remonstrating with her not to drive home she does so regardless, in keeping with your concern for the well being of other road users am i correct in assuming that all of you in favour of reporting a friend or family member under these circumstances would then phone up the police and inform them of your mothers actions?

I'm interested to see firstly who from the initial proponents of informing the authorities answers and secondly how veracious they are in doing so.

I'd take the keys off her if she was adamant she was going to drive.

I think the idea of reporting someone to the police put forward by many posters, is based on habitual dangerous driving, rather than on a one-off incident.  Might be wrong though.



If she slipped off before you could get the keys from her would you phone the police?

It'll have to be a hypothetical question, as I know my Mum would never drink and drive.

So, if for whatever reason she does what you've said in your question - and she slips away and drives home over the limit.  I wouldn't report her.

I might take the keys off her permanently.  I might threaten to report her.

BUT - I have friends with family that are alcoholics, and the habitually drink and drive.  My friends have reported them to the police - for their safety and the safety of others.  A tough thing to do, but the right thing ultimately.  I'd hope I'd have the balls to do the same if I was in their situation.


What if you and your mum were in the pub having lunch drinking coke all afternoon and you saw a guy have 3 pints and then go outside and drive off, would you honestly take the time to note his number plate or details and inform the police?

Me?  No.  It happens all the time - far too much to be honest.  I see it all the time, and do nothing about it.  If I saw someone threatening someone else with violence - I'd probably get involved.  So really, I guess I should get involved if someone is willingly getting behind the wheel knowing that it's dangerous and they shouldn't. 

It's a shame speed cameras can't catch drink-drivers.  It's a far bigger danger to drink and drive than it is to go 90mph on motorway on a fine day.   

I'd definitely support greater police efforts to cut down on drink driving.   

I play sport every Saturday, and after the match, back at the clubhouse, people drink several pints with the intention of driving home when they are done.  I make a point of telling them it's wrong, that it's putting them and others at risk - but if they don't listen (they generally don't), I do nothing.  Would I be doing the right thing to tell the police, and get them to watch people leaving the car park and check everyone who leaves?  To be honest, it probably would be the right thing to do.

I guess I do the spineless thing, and turn a blind eye.

If a member of my family was injured by a drink-driver, I'd be furious.  I'd want them punished, and I'd question why others were with them didn't do something to stop them from drinking and driving. 

What would you do if someone you knew was getting obviously drunk and had every intention of driving home?
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