Hand at Stoke last night

[Smart Money]

Let me guess...you're one of those players that always get their aces cracked right?

I doubt it, seeing as he wrote "In the early levels in deep stacked tournaments, passive play postflop with strong preflop holdings is perfectly acceptable."

(Unless it's against Daniel Negreanu's loose play.)

[Dubai]

"By the way. Playing me. I put you all-in on the river. Are you going to call with K-K?"

Lol. I havent passed an overpair in approx 3 years. Good luck trying to push me off Kings. You may need a few cranes to assist you.


Or you could come play me headsup and see if it works?

[MANTIS01]

I caught the flush on the turn.

[totalise]

"By the way. Playing me. I put you all-in on the river. Are you going to call with K-K?"

Lol. I havent passed an overpair in approx 3 years. Good luck trying to push me off Kings. You may need a few cranes to assist you.


Or you could come play me headsup and see if it works?

obligatory heads up challenge issued? Check.

[Dubai]

Of course. No fun without it.

[snoopy1239]

Are you going to call with...?

It's not often someone bothers asking Dubai that.

Instacall

[ACE2M]

"By the way. Playing me. I put you all-in on the river. Are you going to call with K-K?"

Lol. I havent passed an overpair in approx 3 years. Good luck trying to push me off Kings. You may need a few cranes to assist you.


Or you could come play me headsup and see if it works?

obligatory heads up challenge issued? Check.

lol

[MANTIS01]

Anyway enough of the banter already.

Let me make a couple of points.

Firstly, I do agree with Dubai that passive post-flop play is certainly an option to explore. It is a tactic that can pay dividends against aggressive players under certain circumstances. Personally I would be looking for a more inviting board than this though.

However, the crucial point is that in order to employ this tactic it is essential to know where you're at with the hand. If you are supremely confident that you have the best hand then playing passively with this hand is ok, if a little risky. You can then allow the hand to progress feeling confident that you are in charge of the situation. You are the trapper and your opponent is being trapped.

However, this is not how Horneris feels during this hand. She freely admits that she was lost in the hand.

My wife, who is an avid (and bloody good) player. Often gets frustrated when she plays big pocket pairs like this. Not really knowing where she is but not wanting to let them go.

Horneris asked fellow members for an alternative.

I think that whenever you are struggling to know where you are in a hand you should turn the tables on your opponent.

Rather than being faced with a series of awkward questions on the flop, turn and river, you should answer your opponents question with one of your own. By pushing on the flop you avoid putting yourself in awkward situations later on in the hand and the only person with a tough decision to make now is your opponent. You will probably kick off your tournament with a nice pot win, feel that you bossed the hand, and show the other players that you mean business.

This is an alternative.

Secondly, I am kinda new to this forum but do enjoy a bit of poker analysis. However, I have seen other posts suggesting that this section is underused due to fellow members feeling obliged to have a pop at each other if they think that person is "wrong". I think this is a bit counter-productive really.

I never want to stop learning and improving. By listening to other views, whether I agree with them or not, means that this goal is inevitable.

Anyway good luck all.

[ACE2M]

However, this is not how Horneris feels during this hand. She freely admits that she was lost in the hand.

Time for a hair cut mate?

[Smart Money]

However, this is not how Horneris feels during this hand. She freely admits that she was lost in the hand.

Fancy a shag?

[Linux]

  ZOMG. How embarrassing.

Yer tis time for a haircut, but its not that long!

(posted on my mates comp, by me, Horneris.)

[Sunday8pm]

Im definately not giving my kings up on the flop, id be peeling a turn and most likely passing to a bet then.


Information on the guys demeanor would be good. I think you can only beat a bluff here. Mind you people can play pocket in £20 freezeouts like the villian here.

[boldie]

Anyway enough of the banter already.

Let me make a couple of points.

Firstly, I do agree with Dubai that passive post-flop play is certainly an option to explore. It is a tactic that can pay dividends against aggressive players under certain circumstances. Personally I would be looking for a more inviting board than this though.

However, the crucial point is that in order to employ this tactic it is essential to know where you're at with the hand. If you are supremely confident that you have the best hand then playing passively with this hand is ok, if a little risky. You can then allow the hand to progress feeling confident that you are in charge of the situation. You are the trapper and your opponent is being trapped.

However, this is not how Horneris feels during this hand. She freely admits that she was lost in the hand.

My wife, who is an avid (and bloody good) player. Often gets frustrated when she plays big pocket pairs like this. Not really knowing where she is but not wanting to let them go.

Horneris asked fellow members for an alternative.

I think that whenever you are struggling to know where you are in a hand you should turn the tables on your opponent.

Rather than being faced with a series of awkward questions on the flop, turn and river, you should answer your opponents question with one of your own. By pushing on the flop you avoid putting yourself in awkward situations later on in the hand and the only person with a tough decision to make now is your opponent. You will probably kick off your tournament with a nice pot win, feel that you bossed the hand, and show the other players that you mean business.

This is an alternative.

Secondly, I am kinda new to this forum but do enjoy a bit of poker analysis. However, I have seen other posts suggesting that this section is underused due to fellow members feeling obliged to have a pop at each other if they think that person is "wrong". I think this is a bit counter-productive really.

I never want to stop learning and improving. By listening to other views, whether I agree with them or not, means that this goal is inevitable.

Anyway good luck all.

to be fair, I think posts like the above and the previous one are fantastic. There isn't just one way to play poker and they show a great deal of thought being put into them..well done on that Sir.

I agree with your first post. The action on the flop decides where you go here. If Horneris (or goldielocks as he is now known) had actively decided that he was in front to whatever his oppo held he could check call this all the way. I do think though that your opponent has to be a complete donk for that to work on a flop, turn and river like this. 90% of oppo's should have you beat here. Unless you have a great read on your oppo I reckon you have to be behind and fold.

[Horneris]

Ok, VOTING IS CLOSED.

Thanks for all your reponses. The reason i asked is because he starting abusing me and my call for the next 20 minutes. "He cant put down a big hand blar blar". "He called even though he put me on a set".

To be honest i kind of put him on a hand like 77 through to 99.

But i dismissed these hands after his river bet but still called. In the end i felt like i was making a crying call on the river and wasnt happy being involved in a 14k pot with blinds at 25/50 with one pair, no matter how high.

But he has  and i won.

[Ironside]

if you had put him all in on flop then you wouldnt have to put up with his whinning he would be off tilting on the roulette wheel