More rubbish limit play

[matt674]

Glass is always half empty with you isn't it. Pre flop raiser is always going to bet that flop.

Knowing that afterwards when he turns over an ace, however if he had raised preflop with a pocket pair then the ace may scare him and he may check. Only by being at the table and knowing how aggresive your opponent in this situation is could you answer this.

[Royal Flush]

Glass is always half empty with you isn't it. Pre flop raiser is always going to bet that flop.

Knowing that afterwards when he turns over an ace, however if he had raised preflop with a pocket pair then the ace may scare him and he may check. Only by being at the table and knowing how aggresive your opponent in this situation is could you answer this.

If he checks then its not so bad, we can still hit our 12 outs.....

A single bet is unlikely to put doubt in your opponents mind, a check raise is a hell of a lot stronger.

[matt674]

I agree the check raise is a lot stronger provided you get the opportunity to use it.

If you dont and you get a free card, you miss and are faced with a bet - surely your only play now is to call and see if you hit?

[thetank]

You'd keep going all day if we kept posting too

[Royal Flush]

I agree the check raise is a lot stronger provided you get the opportunity to use it.

If you dont and you get a free card, you miss and are faced with a bet - surely your only play now is to call and see if you hit?

Yay finally, lol

[matt674]

I agree the check raise is a lot stronger provided you get the opportunity to use it.

If you dont and you get a free card, you miss and are faced with a bet - surely your only play now is to call and see if you hit?

Yay finally, lol

check/calling - hardly wildy aggresive not for the feint hearted poker is it?

[Royal Flush]

I agree the check raise is a lot stronger provided you get the opportunity to use it.

If you dont and you get a free card, you miss and are faced with a bet - surely your only play now is to call and see if you hit?

Yay finally, lol

check/calling - hardly wildy aggresive not for the feint hearted poker is it?

On the flop sir, really by now you should be able to understand this stuff!

[matt674]

understand what?!?!?!? you are saying you need to take the bull by the horns and play these hands aggressively but at the same time you are saying that if you check and its checked behind you then you only option is to just call then pass on the river if you miss!!

How is checking on the flop, calling on the turn and passing on the river wildly aggressive?!?!?!

You are completely reliant on your opponent being aggresive for you to be able to get aggressive, if not your are playing it weak/passive - a complete contradiction.

Its a marginal hand and you are saying its ok to play it LAG, its ok to play it TAG or weak passive. Is there a wrong way to play it?

[thetank]

Your opponent doesn't need to be an aggressive crazeee mark four to bet that flop.

He raised PF, it's a raisers flop, it's checked to him.
For sure a check raise contains a small element of gamble that he will check, but that's the game we play.

[boldie]

I think the monkey doesn't realise that the check raise in limit is a more agressive play than the check raise in no limit.
This is one of the fundamental differences between no limit and limit (in ym own sad little opinion of course)

[matt674]

I think the monkey doesn't realise that the check raise in limit is a more agressive play than the check raise in no limit.
This is one of the fundamental differences between no limit and limit (in ym own sad little opinion of course)

I agree, to check raise someone in limit poker shows much bigger strength because its so much harder to force people off hands with bluffs. However you have to be playing in a tournament where your opponents are capable of reading it for what it is.

In an online $3 HORSE tourney, the majority of the players all they do is play their own hands without even trying to think what their opponents have - let alone what their opponents are trying to achieve by making the moves they are making.

Like tank says, thats the gamble you take when checking on the flop hoping for a raise.

[boldie]

I think the monkey doesn't realise that the check raise in limit is a more agressive play than the check raise in no limit.
This is one of the fundamental differences between no limit and limit (in ym own sad little opinion of course)

I agree, to check raise someone in limit poker shows much bigger strength because its so much harder to force people off hands with bluffs. However you have to be playing in a tournament where your opponents are capable of reading it for what it is.

In an online $3 HORSE tourney, the majority of the players all they do is play their own hands without even trying to think what their opponents have - let alone what their opponents are trying to achieve by making the moves they are making.

fair point

[Muahahahaha]

I think the monkey doesn't realise that the check raise in limit is a more agressive play than the check raise in no limit.
This is one of the fundamental differences between no limit and limit (in ym own sad little opinion of course)

I agree, to check raise someone in limit poker shows much bigger strength because its so much harder to force people off hands with bluffs. However you have to be playing in a tournament where your opponents are capable of reading it for what it is.

In an online $3 HORSE tourney, the majority of the players all they do is play their own hands without even trying to think what their opponents have - let alone what their opponents are trying to achieve by making the moves they are making. Like tank says, thats the gamble you take when checking on the flop hoping for a raise.

You know me so well.....