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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2007, 02:49:10 AM »

Nice post Peter, that is why u write about poker and I do not, great stuff


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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2007, 03:18:03 AM »

Thank you Mr Costa, you sneak in here when we are sleeping and leave us these gems, we should call you santa.   
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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2007, 04:05:42 AM »

Without a doubt this is the best thread I have read since i joined blonde. Great information and input from everyone, great stories and sums up everything i love about poker. That there can never be one definitive answer or solution to any poker related situation or at least one that is agreed on by everyone!
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« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2007, 06:12:32 AM »

Thank you again for all your views, very interesting reading others thoughts.

I am not, and never will be a 'professional' poker player, but i have played many tournaments, mostly last year on a local circuit. The buy ins varied from £10-£100, but mostly £20 freezeouts, so the money (buy in) was never an issue.

I can play the game, and if i say so myself, to a reasonable standard. I generally get to a mid point in the tourneys with a reasonable chip stack, then the problem kicks in, i know if i play 'safe' i have a good chance of making the final table therefore cashing, so all of a sudden i stop playing hands i KNOW i should, especially if i have no money committed to the pot. I know this is 'weak' but its sort of a mental thing with me and i wish i could be different.

having said that, on our circuit last year i made as many FT as any other player (up until the time i left) winning only ONCE, as the majority of the time i arrived as the small stack. But i made a PROFIT overall so that made me happy.

Anyway thats just me.
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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2007, 07:29:57 AM »

Well done taximan, what a great thread to start and so many different outlooks. All perfectly understandable in their own way. More of the same please gents.
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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2007, 01:10:03 PM »

Would be great to get DC, Camel, Roland ect to post thoughts about this!!!!!!!
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2007, 01:57:45 PM »

8 8 was always beating K Q however if you were playing me you would probably have hit a K or Q on the River.

Anyway i now feel compelled to tell you about my 2 bad beats as they were exactly that

Walsall,

Had a horrible tournament and kept getting JJ, 10 10 and even QQ with AK flops and got down to my last 3000 chips and found KK in the smaill blind and made it 600 to play Shaf calls me in the big blind and the flop comes down 6 3 8 and i move all in and Shaf calls me with 6 4  and the turn is a 7 and the River well you guessed it was a 5

Cardiff,

Played very well with a stategy of playing tight for the first 4 levels with a view to exploiting my tight image at a later stage and I had about 13000 chips at the dinner break, unfortunately the table broke and the new players didnt respect my raises as much as the first players would have anyway after the break I was surviving on one hand an hour ie a hand I could call a raise with. were towards the end of level 8 and im on the button with A Q Suited and i have 3 callers so i reraise All in a good spot for my last 6000 chips, Kashan in the Small blind calls me with pocket 10s and the other two callers fold and the last person to act moves All In for an additonal 3000 chips, Kashan then says I have to call, how bad a shape Am I in, he then turns over pocket .  I think every player on the table just couldnt believe it and I felt in very good shape and felt very confident I would hit an A or a Q as it was more or less indicated that not there werent too may high cards dealt out.  Anyway first card was an Ace and the turn card was a 4.  This hurt me a lot more than Walsall because the player who beat me just shouldnt have been in the hand.  If he didnt hit the 4 i would have had 20000 chips and back in the tournament in a big way and I was due to get better cards at some point.

In both cases I was massively ahead at the flop and got badly beat up, so it does beg the question about which style to adopt in these tourneys Tight and Agressive or Very agressive from the Off to try and get to 20000 quickly from where it is hard for people to put you out on a bad beat
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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2007, 06:50:53 PM »

I too agree that this has been a really interesting subject to discuss.

Just to follow up on my post about the £1,500 tournament and how it changed my attitude to winning/cashing....

Two months later January 1st 06
£300 NL Tournament
Walsall Grosvenor


Once again we are deep into the second day with 13 players remaining

I am well stacked and lying a comfortable second in chips

We are 6 handed at my table when a certain Tony "Tikay" Kendal pushed all-in on the button.

It is my big blind.

I looked down to see    .

To call here would cost me about one third of my stack. I considered what to do.

Because I was completely aware of what was happening in the tournament that day I knew that Ali Mallu was a massive chip leader. Consequently there were a number of short stacks hanging on for dear life.

I considered why I needed to use my chips to call an all-in here and gamble for a third of my stack? I thought it far better to ensure the "cash" and then use my chips to gamble at the final. I folded the A-J face up to the surprise of some.

Tikay showed the  ??

He heavily intimated that he had A-Q and that it was a good pass. (A few days later on blonde I found a post stating that he actually had Q-10!!)

Even so I was still happy with the fold. A-J Vs Q-10 at that specific moment in the tournament was not a necessary gamble for me to take. Particularly because it was using my chips to call.

A couple of hands later it was "tikay's" blind and I had already resolved to raise blind and use the credit I had from showing the A-J to ensure a fold. Sure enough I raised it without looking.

Phil Peters, who was also at the table, said that he "knew" I had the goods because he had an accurate "tell" on me.....(Isn't poker great!)......"tikay" duly folded and the balance was restored.

That day I eased myself to the final table and eventually had a chop of the prize money taking home £6,000....Happy New Year.

So the point was that I had learned my lesson. Took stock of the situation in the tournament as a whole and went for the cash first and then the win. This change in mentality saw me going home happy and loaded rather than penniless and sick

Sometimes it is better to just go for the cash!

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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2007, 05:06:08 AM »

I folded the A-J face up

lol, what an invite to the lags.
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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2007, 09:08:36 AM »

Cardiff,

Played very well with a stategy of playing tight for the first 4 levels with a view to exploiting my tight image at a later stage and I had about 13000 chips at the dinner break, unfortunately the table broke and the new players didnt respect my raises as much as the first players would have anyway after the break

Just a quick tip, if you going to do this then check your table number as most tables get broken in order. So only do this when you have a low / mid table. If you know your table is one of the first to get broken you dont need to plan for the long term regarding table image.
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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2007, 10:56:17 AM »



AT LAST SOMETHING ACTUALY WORTH DISCUSSING ON BP


 Some great comments and some very useful answers.
Tikays take is true pro u don`t cash u don`t eat  and that`s the way it is for the pro`s in the real world. Peter Costa`s obviously got a lot of experience and his words ring true, and I can empathise with the guys on a bad run it can last a long time and effect you badly both financially and metally..the bad beats take their toll...trust me.
My own advice for what it`s worth.... tailor the buy ins to suit your bankroll that way you will always be playing your best game and not worrying about how much the entry fee has cost you.
One point I will add is that at the late stage of a tournament especially one off the cash ( If cashing is your goal) Then it is crucial to keep control of the size of the pot . Sure you are going to get involved with KQ on a K.K.8. flop but do you really have to go to war with the chip leader with a chance of going busted? ...maybe..maybe not. Think about the overall picture KEEP CONTROL of the pot and you may survive flukes like this one.... and cash

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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2007, 03:41:41 PM »



AT LAST SOMETHING ACTUALY WORTH DISCUSSING ON BP


 Some great comments and some very useful answers.
Tikays take is true pro u don`t cash u don`t eat  and that`s the way it is for the under bankrolled pro`s in the real world.


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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2007, 03:51:17 PM »

I too agree that this has been a really interesting subject to discuss.

Just to follow up on my post about the £1,500 tournament and how it changed my attitude to winning/cashing....

Two months later January 1st 06
£300 NL Tournament
Walsall Grosvenor


Once again we are deep into the second day with 13 players remaining

I am well stacked and lying a comfortable second in chips

We are 6 handed at my table when a certain Tony "Tikay" Kendal pushed all-in on the button.

It is my big blind.

I looked down to see    .

To call here would cost me about one third of my stack. I considered what to do.

Because I was completely aware of what was happening in the tournament that day I knew that Ali Mallu was a massive chip leader. Consequently there were a number of short stacks hanging on for dear life.

I considered why I needed to use my chips to call an all-in here and gamble for a third of my stack? I thought it far better to ensure the "cash" and then use my chips to gamble at the final. I folded the A-J face up to the surprise of some.

Tikay showed the  ??

He heavily intimated that he had A-Q and that it was a good pass. (A few days later on blonde I found a post stating that he actually had Q-10!!)

Even so I was still happy with the fold. A-J Vs Q-10 at that specific moment in the tournament was not a necessary gamble for me to take. Particularly because it was using my chips to call.

A couple of hands later it was "tikay's" blind and I had already resolved to raise blind and use the credit I had from showing the A-J to ensure a fold. Sure enough I raised it without looking.

Phil Peters, who was also at the table, said that he "knew" I had the goods because he had an accurate "tell" on me.....(Isn't poker great!)......"tikay" duly folded and the balance was restored.

That day I eased myself to the final table and eventually had a chop of the prize money taking home £6,000....Happy New Year.

So the point was that I had learned my lesson. Took stock of the situation in the tournament as a whole and went for the cash first and then the win. This change in mentality saw me going home happy and loaded rather than penniless and sick

Sometimes it is better to just go for the cash!



It was a misread, I thought I had JJ.

Seriously, MANTIS has been Posting regularly of late, & I am not alone in loving his style of writing, but I was curious as to who the guy was. I went to Walsall on Saturday, sat down & the guy next to me introduced himself to me - it was none other than MANTIS. Top bloke, too, though he enjoyed no luck on Saturday.

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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2007, 04:02:11 PM »

Would be great to get DC, Camel, Roland ect to post thoughts about this!!!!!!!

Well then, in that case, I shall send them all a PM with a Link to this thread, & maybe they will give us their thoughts. This Forum is what the Members make it, if they want input from the Big Guys, just PM them, & maybe they'll oblige.

As to the Gentleman who said "at last, something worth reading on blonde", well, all Members have the right to start threads, so if you have interesting stuff for us to debate, please start threads, we'd be muchly grateful, & I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised by the responses. Nice to see you, Saturday, by the way. The quality & nature of threads on blonde is up to you guys!
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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2007, 04:04:43 PM »

PM sent to el blondie, Camel & Roland.

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