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« on: April 24, 2007, 12:36:17 PM »

Was stuck with indecision both pre-flop and post and I don't feel I made the right choices at either point.   Pre-flop my initial thoughts were to push but the flat call from GWTW and the huge stacks acting next slowed me down. By this point it starts bleeping like mad and I bottled it and called thinking it wasn't as bad as folding and I could reassess if it comes back round to me. No such luck and it ends up catching a huge number of callers (all hands for the previous 30mins had at most 3 on the flop). The flop is horrible (as is any that doesn't have a T). Again I'm stuck in neutral when the bleeps hit and I push more in desperation than confidence that it would get through. Although to be honest I expected to see a J more than the flush.

I'd go sit in the corner with the dunce cap on but Ive already been there a while and the other kids are beginning to refer to it as 'Mark's Chair'

My first though when I got the call was I should have pushed pre and I'm expecting a list of 'easy push' replies but interested to see if anybody does anything different (maybe, call then check/fold the flop? fold pre?)

Seat 1: Huggan ($26,488.32 in chips)
Seat 2: nellion00 ($65,617.44 in chips)
Seat 3: nurmster ($19,965.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 4: MrsDK ($58,260.00 in chips)
Seat 5: JAG ($46,473.62 in chips)
Seat 6: GWTW ($26,011.50 in chips)
Seat 7: happybhoy74 ($24,768.78 in chips)
Seat 8: lanfeust79 ($126,602.48 in chips)
Seat 9: Porninho ($122,951.12 in chips)
MrsDK: Post SB $2,000.00
JAG: Post BB $4,000.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to happybhoy74 [ ]
Dealt to nellion00 [ ]
GWTW: Call $4,000.00
happybhoy74: Call $4,000.00
lanfeust79: Fold
Porninho: Call $4,000.00
Huggan: Fold
nellion00: Call $4,000.00
nurmster: Fold
MrsDK: Fold
JAG: Check
*** FLOP *** [ ]
JAG: Check
GWTW: Check
happybhoy74: Allin $20,768.78
Porninho: Fold
nellion00: Call $20,768.78
JAG: Fold
GWTW: Fold
*** TURN *** []
*** RIVER *** []
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $63,537.56 Rake $0.00
nellion00: wins $63,537.56
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2007, 12:46:23 PM »

Pre-flop it's either push or fold.  If you call and there are other callers after you, it's going to be hard to make anyone fold with 16K+ in the pot after the flop, and it's also likely that your TT will be behind on the flop with several players still in the hand.

I push here.  You've got enough to severly dent all the stacks (except maybe the biggest two), and with just 6xBB left in my stack I want to push with a decent hand, and TT is certainly that, and is more than likely ahead pre-flop.




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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2007, 12:46:46 PM »

Id have pushed pre flop instantly.


Id probs end up check/folding the flop.

Id be tempted to push the flop with the 10 of hearts tho.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2007, 01:01:06 PM »

no offence but if you could see he was holding  then why did you push on the flop? 

were you playing 2 accounts and chip dumping? Grin
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2007, 01:05:10 PM »

lol, forgot to edit it for dramatic impact.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2007, 02:39:08 PM »

push pre flop everytime for me!
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2007, 03:29:19 PM »

Pushing was my first thought but like Mike Patton indecision clouded my vision. How low would your pp have to be before you don't push? 66 and less, i think i am folding, 77 i'm the wrong person to ask, 88 99 & TT are in my discomfort zone, my gut instinct says this is where it gets marginal (although i'll be pushing the tens in future Wink).
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2007, 03:37:29 PM »

I am pushing with 88+ AQ & AK, I might even push with lesser Aces in EP.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2007, 03:49:37 PM »

shove ATC
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2007, 03:51:26 PM »

Shove 77
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2007, 04:07:25 PM »

Probably shove 66 as well.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2007, 04:16:23 PM »

Probably shove 66 as well.

Dont see why not.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2007, 04:17:45 PM »

Probably shove 66 as well.

Dont see why not.


55?
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2007, 04:23:39 PM »

Now your pushing it.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2007, 05:12:23 PM »

Now your pushing it.

No, I was pushing it with TT, and probably down to 66.  Not sure about 55...
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