Call, Push or Fold?

[NoflopsHomer]

Opponent is unknown.

Seat 1: Foamer ($124 in chips)
Seat 2: khers. ($135.64 in chips)
Seat 3: Senojo ($265.30 in chips)
Seat 4: The_shunk ($774.26 in chips)
Seat 5: Wages4you ($470.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Sharob1u ($410.75 in chips)
Sharob1u: posts small blind $1
Foamer: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Foamer [ ]
khers.: calls $2
Senojo: raises to $6
The_shunk: folds
Wages4you: calls $6
Sharob1u: calls $5
Foamer: calls $4
khers.: calls $4
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
Sharob1u: checks
Foamer: checks
khers.: checks
Senojo: checks
Wages4you: checks
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
Sharob1u: checks
Foamer: checks
khers.: bets $16
Senojo: raises to $78
Wages4you: folds
Wages4you sits out
Sharob1u: folds
Wages4you sits back
Foamer: ?

[Royal Flush]

Insta-pass.

[boldie]

Insta-pass.

yep..very very easy fold...also don't like the call of the raise preflop BTW, what are you hoping to hit with this hand?

[tantrum]

Insta-pass.

yep..very very easy fold...also don't like the call of the raise preflop BTW, what are you hoping to hit with this hand?

Agreed, fold pre-flop, fold now

[turny]

this some kind of joke homer???lol

no decision at all here fold!

[AlexMartin]

this some kind of joke homer???lol

no decision at all here fold!

yeah, cant believe this to be a serious post

[tantrum]

this some kind of joke homer???lol

no decision at all here fold!

yeah, cant believe this to be a serious post

I am sure it was serious he was on a draw....

[temp0r]

i'm guessing this was posted because you passed and would of hit the straight flush?

[rudders]

for me the important info is that the opponent is unknown to me.

I have no problem with calling a raise with this hand in the shorthanded format esp if the table is particually loose or if the original raiser is raising large percentage of hands. also you calling $4 into a $22 pot with a probable further $4 to come.

If  you knew the players you would have a better idea of whether they would bet a draw like this or the made hand. khers bet half the pot- what does this mean- not the nut str probably- and certainly looks weak possible top set. the reraise is could be the made hand- with potential  improvement or the nut fl draw ( he was the preflop raiser so suited big cards are likely). there is a slight possiblity that he sensed weakness in the bet and is representing.  You are drawing for the most part to the non nuts and would need some serious info on the reraiser to not fold( there is a player on ipoker 36 and 5 10 who I would reraise in this situation as he has history of making these big reraises where the bet appears weak- and often does not have it).

In this situation I fold- not knowing the players. But perhaps not as straight forward as some would makeout( you cant always draw to the nuts in these shorthanded games - and some of the play is so poor that  a call could be + ev)

[NoflopsHomer]

for me the important info is that the opponent is unknown to me.

I have no problem with calling a raise with this hand in the shorthanded format esp if the table is particually loose or if the original raiser is raising large percentage of hands. also you calling $4 into a $22 pot with a probable further $4 to come.

If  you knew the players you would have a better idea of whether they would bet a draw like this or the made hand. khers bet half the pot- what does this mean- not the nut str probably- and certainly looks weak possible top set. the reraise is could be the made hand- with potential  improvement or the nut fl draw ( he was the preflop raiser so suited big cards are likely). there is a slight possiblity that he sensed weakness in the bet and is representing.  You are drawing for the most part to the non nuts and would need some serious info on the reraiser to not fold( there is a player on ipoker 36 and 5 10 who I would reraise in this situation as he has history of making these big reraises where the bet appears weak- and often does not have it).

In this situation I fold- not knowing the players. But perhaps not as straight forward as some would makeout( you cant always draw to the nuts in these shorthanded games - and some of the play is so poor that  a call could be + ev)

Good post Rudders, thanks for your thoughts. I did pass, and so did the other guy.

Incidentally, I called because the of the odds and also the 6-handed 1/2 game is probably amongst the loosest online, (PLO as whole on Crypto is very loose), so I'm not perturbed by this criticism. I was just intrigued if anyone would actually call.

[Karabiner]

Fold quickly, wondering why I slaughtered the $4 pre-flop 

[tantrum]

rudders, you are basically saying in short handed PLO any 4 will do then?

[boldie]

for me the important info is that the opponent is unknown to me.

I have no problem with calling a raise with this hand in the shorthanded format esp if the table is particually loose or if the original raiser is raising large percentage of hands. also you calling $4 into a $22 pot with a probable further $4 to come.

If  you knew the players you would have a better idea of whether they would bet a draw like this or the made hand. khers bet half the pot- what does this mean- not the nut str probably- and certainly looks weak possible top set. the reraise is could be the made hand- with potential  improvement or the nut fl draw ( he was the preflop raiser so suited big cards are likely). there is a slight possiblity that he sensed weakness in the bet and is representing.  You are drawing for the most part to the non nuts and would need some serious info on the reraiser to not fold( there is a player on ipoker 36 and 5 10 who I would reraise in this situation as he has history of making these big reraises where the bet appears weak- and often does not have it).

In this situation I fold- not knowing the players. But perhaps not as straight forward as some would makeout( you cant always draw to the nuts in these shorthanded games - and some of the play is so poor that  a call could be + ev)

Good post Rudders, thanks for your thoughts. I did pass, and so did the other guy.

Incidentally, I called because the of the odds and also the 6-handed 1/2 game is probably amongst the loosest online, (PLO as whole on Crypto is very loose), so I'm not perturbed by this criticism. I was just intrigued if anyone would actually call.

I ussually find that, especially in cash games, going tighter is the way to go in a lose game..only play premium hands and you'll get paid...don't join in the madness hoping to get lucky...just my thought ofcourse I don't play on Crypto

[Royal Flush]

for me the important info is that the opponent is unknown to me.

I have no problem with calling a raise with this hand in the shorthanded format esp if the table is particually loose or if the original raiser is raising large percentage of hands. also you calling $4 into a $22 pot with a probable further $4 to come.

If  you knew the players you would have a better idea of whether they would bet a draw like this or the made hand. khers bet half the pot- what does this mean- not the nut str probably- and certainly looks weak possible top set. the reraise is could be the made hand- with potential  improvement or the nut fl draw ( he was the preflop raiser so suited big cards are likely). there is a slight possiblity that he sensed weakness in the bet and is representing.  You are drawing for the most part to the non nuts and would need some serious info on the reraiser to not fold( there is a player on ipoker 36 and 5 10 who I would reraise in this situation as he has history of making these big reraises where the bet appears weak- and often does not have it).

In this situation I fold- not knowing the players. But perhaps not as straight forward as some would makeout( you cant always draw to the nuts in these shorthanded games - and some of the play is so poor that  a call could be + ev)

Are you playing under a different name there? I hope i am not the aforementioned maniac.

[rudders]

rudders, you are basically saying in short handed PLO any 4 will do then?

no- not even close tbh- i am actually known as a tight (definate rock according to flushy and pab) player. But this hand is 2 suited with   2 pairs of i gapped cards. premium--- no  good -- no.... some potential to hit a flop - yes especially at 5.5-1 odds. i fold filth preflop. In a 6 handed game 2 suited with vaguely connected cards is playable with caution.

"I ussually find that, especially in cash games, going tighter is the way to go in a lose game..only play premium hands and you'll get paid...don't join in the madness hoping to get lucky...just my thought of course I don't play on Crypto "

the problem with being tight in 6 handed cash game loose or not is that you are in the blinds at least a third of the time, wiating for premium hands gets expensive- and good players will spot your inactivity, even if you get action they dont always win!. In omaha six handed what premium hands are you waiting for ? suited AA? do you prefer kkxx to homers hand here?- if so do you reraise with it?  I just feel that  this hand is "not any 4 cards" and that it does not require you to be a loose player to play here with caution. folding preflop is too tight imho ( take note flushie