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kinboshi
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May 18, 2012, 10:40:04 AM »
I'm with a lot of the fans wanting Rafa back. But as the owners seem set on getting a Director of Football I can't see Rafa wanting to work in such a set-up. It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks or so.
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Quote from: The Baron on May 18, 2012, 08:21:48 AM
Swansea too apparently.
I here rodgers turn down the chance to talk to us!
Pretty embarrassing if so.
Looks like Martinez will get it - not impressed
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May 18, 2012, 06:39:14 PM »
Quote from: Waz1892 on May 18, 2012, 11:05:26 AM
Quote from: The Baron on May 18, 2012, 08:21:48 AM
Swansea too apparently.
I here rodgers turn down the chance to talk to us!
Pretty embarrassing if so.
Looks like Martinez will get it - not impressed
Fair play to Rodgers. He knows he's no shoe in and doesn't want to rock his own boat.
Firstly let me say I really like Martinez and would be happy to see him here. But we'll almost certainly be interviewing more than two managers. If you believe the journos our list includes Capello, Guardiola (I will shave my head and grow a beard if he comes) and a few others with a higher profile than Martinez.
I don't get the problem with Martinez though. Sooner or later he will be offered a big job at a big club. Why not us?
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Quote from: kinboshi on May 18, 2012, 10:40:04 AM
I'm with a lot of the fans wanting Rafa back. But as the owners seem set on getting a Director of Football I can't see Rafa wanting to work in such a set-up. It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks or so.
I'm with you Dan but it wont happen.
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May 18, 2012, 06:43:25 PM »
Martinez would be good, I think
Lots of tactical flexibility in his teams. When Wigan went on their run he was playing 3 at the back, Moses in a free role....fun to watch.
Guardiola would of course be a right buzz, but he's having a year off isn't he, minimum?
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Re: Liverpool FC
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May 18, 2012, 06:45:20 PM »
Quote from: Waz1892 on May 18, 2012, 11:05:26 AM
Quote from: The Baron on May 18, 2012, 08:21:48 AM
Swansea too apparently.
I here rodgers turn down the chance to talk to us!
Pretty embarrassing if so.
Looks like Martinez will get it - not impressed
Understandable. Doesn't want to annoy anyone at Swansea by talking to 'pool when he's probably outsider of the candidates. He has basically free reign at Swansea to do it his way. At Liverpool every owner, director, player, fan and his dog will have an opinion of his choices and tactics.
Whats wrong with Martinez?
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May 18, 2012, 06:56:05 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on May 18, 2012, 06:43:25 PM
Martinez would be good, I think
Lots of tactical flexibility in his teams. When Wigan went on their run he was playing 3 at the back, Moses in a free role....fun to watch.
Guardiola would of course be a right buzz, but he's having a year off isn't he, minimum?
Absolutely i rate him highley an his way of playing football is a credit to true football lovers. I think he would be a great Liverpool manager but would need a few additions in team as dont really see the players they have now as suiting his style.
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May 18, 2012, 07:05:20 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on May 18, 2012, 06:43:25 PM
Martinez would be good, I think
Lots of tactical flexibility in his teams. When Wigan went on their run he was playing 3 at the back, Moses in a free role....fun to watch.
Guardiola would of course be a right buzz, but he's having a year off isn't he, minimum?
Agree - Martinez has impressed me this season and is an excellent interview. It's bad times when you know that is part of the criteria for your next manager after the last 3.
Yup - and Guardiola doesn't really do bullshitting the media. He's as honest as the day is long.
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Just read Suarez and Pep have the same agent though.
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Quote from: The Baron on May 18, 2012, 07:36:59 PM
Just read Suarez and Pep have the same agent though.
Travel or estate?
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May 18, 2012, 11:11:03 PM »
Movement in markets for Rafa again tonight, altho not quite sure what you can read into that as markets are weird, but 10s to
in some places
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May 19, 2012, 11:04:35 AM »
Financial fair play and investment in stadium are prob the two chief considerations for deft businessman John Henry at this time. The guy has already spent a vast amount on player recruitment so reckon he will be going for a football coach type who can bring out the best in players while working within a constrained budget and DOF strat. If he had a mind to consider our friend Rafa he would gulp at the hundreds of millions spent on a conveyor belt of players and the arguments with hierarchy at different clubs and public demands to be backed in the transfer market. Rafa is the past imo.
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Tomkins responds to rumours about his advisory role with FSG.
An email has been sent to almost every LFC supporter group and website, plus the club itself, asking why I (amongst certain others) appear to be advising FSG.
“Paul Tomkins is an internet blogger/author who writes detailed summaries and analysis based on statistics. He has no experience what so ever in professional football, in any capacity. He also speaks for nobody but himself. Why is he anywhere near the ownership, or his opinion being given such credence? What is Paul Tomkins’ role? – it needs to be explained.”
Well, here it is.
Before John Henry bought Liverpool FC, he purchased several books on the club, to read up about its history. Two of those books just happens to be ones that I had written. Having enjoyed them, he asked to meet me shortly after the deal was completed. He spent a week trying to contact me via Facebook, but I assumed it was a prank and ignored him. Email proved more successful.
He was aware that I had spent five years writing a column for the club’s official website, and that I’d worked hard to forge a reputation for researching issues; even if people disagree with my opinion – and no-one is always right (particularly in football) – it came from a holistic approach that took in many disciplines.
I was not offered any kind of role – not least because I made it clear that due to my health and this website, I wasn’t interested in one – and I have never worked for FSG, or been paid a penny by them. Also, after what happened at Liverpool with Gillett and Hicks, I was not prepared to work for the club’s owners, even if, to me, they seemed cut from a different cloth.
The only ‘gift’ I have received was a package for my dad late last year, after he entered a hospice with terminal cancer (my dad’s dad played for Aston Villa, and John Henry asked Randy Lerner to send some signed Aston Villa merchandise.)
John Henry will occasionally contact me to help him understand something, or seek my advice on a certain issue, but the last time was back in March. FSG had already consulted several people about who would be best suited to run a review of the football side of things, and in particular, how Damien Comolli’s performance – as their football intermediary – could be judged. I wasn’t asked to perform that review, just to give my thoughts on the names who they’d had recommended – presumably provided by their actual advisors.
I have not been asked to provide any input on the managerial situation, although there is nothing to stop me providing my views, now that there is a vacancy. I am free to email John Henry any time I wish, and he’s free to ignore them!
I did not in any way, shape or form contribute to Kenny Dalglish losing his job, and those people accusing me of so doing are seriously out of line. If anyone thinks I’d dare advise against Kenny then they don’t know me, or indeed, what a total coward I really am; even if I believed that he had to be replaced – and I didn’t – I’d need a billion dollars, plastic surgery, a new identity and relocation to Brazil. He was my idol growing up, and I’d have no right to tell anyone to replace him (although no-one should be kept out of sentimentality, obviously, and it’s the owners’ prerogative to run the club as they see fit; I won’t always agree, but again, that’s football).
I don’t want to legitimise all this by giving it air, but seeing as it’s been sent far and wide, and that I’ve had all kinds of abuse on Twitter and via email, I thought it was best that I set the record straight.
Like any fan, I am not going to turn down my club if my opinion is sought, by owners interested in getting feedback from many sources. But I am not – and here I italicise – an advisor. The FSG style is to canvas the opinion of many and work with the wisdom of the crowd, and on top of that, they will have an inner circle of key people, of which I am not one.
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May 22, 2012, 11:06:42 PM »
Excellent from Barnes.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/barnes-on-lfc-barca-future
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Van Gaal into 15s from 65s.
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