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[c4ught]

I don't think it's anything to do with the team he's playing for, it's more to do with the man himself.  Definitely public enemy no.1 according to the media, and looks like the FA feel the same way.

He's not very popular in Ghana either.



Joking aside, the punishment feels harsh particularly since the Mcmanaman tackle on Habibi went unpunished.

Liverpool obviously need to work on making him feel loved and wanted but I wonder how he'll cope with the increased level of abuse he's going to get in every game when/if he plays again.

This was because at least one official saw the incident at the time! Whether that is correct or not........

If suarez had got a 5,6,7,8,9 Liverpool fans would still be saying the punishment was to harsh and that the fans are the ones getting punished as he would miss part of next season.

Always the victims, it's never your fault.

 

[The Camel]

The inability of Liverpool fans to separate supporting their club and condemning a scumbag to the fate he deserves is pretty astounding.

Take a moment and pretend Suarez played for Manchester United and all the misdeameanours he's committed have been at Old Trafford instead of Anfield.

Now what ban does he deserve?

How difficult is to say "I love Suarez, he's a great player. But he's got to stop overstepping the line. Hopefully this 10 game ban will help him see the error of his ways"?

[LOJ]

1.   Massive Liverpool fan, even bigger Suarez fan!
2.   Screw loose; ban is reasonable for the crime.  Lucky to get 10 games, could have been more
3.   FA, shocking in their consistency of punishment for the crime.  Jermaine Defoe? Hmmmmm  seriously, take a look at yourselves! Yes IMO he has been singled out.  All this ‘he was dealt with on the pitch’ bullshit don’t wash with me, but hey ho, as I say ban is reasonable so take it and jog on.

4.   Rogers, do you really blame him for defending him!  Pretty sure Fergie defended Cantona after his kung fu style…  If you aren’t a Liverpool supporter, I think most people would be out to get him, doesn’t mean I think this is defendable at all, I don’t, but it certainly isn’t as bad as the media are making out! 
5.   Certainly needs to be reined in and worked on!  He is an unbelievable talent!  The frustrating thing for me is that I don’t think I’ve watched a Liverpool game with him playing and at some point during the game not gone ‘for f*&k sake Suarez’, for a dive, stamp, or something bad….  He needs to stop simple as before the clubs patience runs thin.  Trouble is, we aren’t man utd and can’t just dump him because of this, as we haven’t got the quality in depth at the moment to be able to do it.
I do find it quite amusing some of the comments on here, like ‘cowardly scumbag’ Jesus get a grip!  Football is all about paying for theatre!  The little dude gives some cracking viewing, granted goes a bit far sometimes, but hardly worthy of those types of comments.  Grow up aye!

[The Camel]

1.   Massive Liverpool fan, even bigger Suarez fan!
2.   Screw loose; ban is reasonable for the crime.  Lucky to get 10 games, could have been more
3.   FA, shocking in their consistency of punishment for the crime.  Jermaine Defoe? Hmmmmm  seriously, take a look at yourselves! Yes IMO he has been singled out.  All this ‘he was dealt with on the pitch’ bullshit don’t wash with me, but hey ho, as I say ban is reasonable so take it and jog on.

4.   Rogers, do you really blame him for defending him!  Pretty sure Fergie defended Cantona after his kung fu style…  If you aren’t a Liverpool supporter, I think most people would be out to get him, doesn’t mean I think this is defendable at all, I don’t, but it certainly isn’t as bad as the media are making out! 
5.   Certainly needs to be reined in and worked on!  He is an unbelievable talent!  The frustrating thing for me is that I don’t think I’ve watched a Liverpool game with him playing and at some point during the game not gone ‘for f*&k sake Suarez’, for a dive, stamp, or something bad….  He needs to stop simple as before the clubs patience runs thin.  Trouble is, we aren’t man utd and can’t just dump him because of this, as we haven’t got the quality in depth at the moment to be able to do it.
I do find it quite amusing some of the comments on here, like ‘cowardly scumbag’ Jesus get a grip!  Football is all about paying for theatre!  The little dude gives some cracking viewing, granted goes a bit far sometimes, but hardly worthy of those types of comments.  Grow up aye!

Hurrah! We've found an objective Liverpool fan, just when I was giving up hope.

Excellent post.

[horseplayer]

no surprise mr rogers the top pr man around in full speil mode this week

[mulhuzz]

I don't think it's anything to do with the team he's playing for, it's more to do with the man himself.  Definitely public enemy no.1 according to the media, and looks like the FA feel the same way.

He's not very popular in Ghana either.



Joking aside, the punishment feels harsh particularly since the Mcmanaman tackle on Habibi went unpunished.

Liverpool obviously need to work on making him feel loved and wanted but I wonder how he'll cope with the increased level of abuse he's going to get in every game when/if he plays again.

This was because at least one official saw the incident at the time! Whether that is correct or not........

If suarez had got a 5,6,7,8,9 Liverpool fans would still be saying the punishment was to harsh and that the fans are the ones getting punished as he would miss part of next season.

Always the victims, it's never your fault.

 

in one way, I think the fact that he was banned at all is absolute bollocks. Are you trying to tell me that not a single official saw it? By the McManaman rule, if an official saw it, but didn't realise the seriousness of the challenge, he can't be retrospectively punished. So if an official saw a coming together, no matter what he did he can't be punished.

on the other hand, he was lucky not to get banned for an entire season. He's lucky not to get arrested either for a flagrant assault.

[kinboshi]

The inability of Liverpool fans to separate supporting their club and condemning a scumbag to the fate he deserves is pretty astounding.

Take a moment and pretend Suarez played for Manchester United and all the misdeameanours he's committed have been at Old Trafford instead of Anfield.

Now what ban does he deserve?

How difficult is to say "I love Suarez, he's a great player. But he's got to stop overstepping the line. Hopefully this 10 game ban will help him see the error of his ways"?

Erm, isn't that what I said?

Or were you too busy getting your pitchforks and torches together?

[The Camel]

The inability of Liverpool fans to separate supporting their club and condemning a scumbag to the fate he deserves is pretty astounding.

Take a moment and pretend Suarez played for Manchester United and all the misdeameanours he's committed have been at Old Trafford instead of Anfield.

Now what ban does he deserve?

How difficult is to say "I love Suarez, he's a great player. But he's got to stop overstepping the line. Hopefully this 10 game ban will help him see the error of his ways"?

Erm, isn't that what I said?

Or were you too busy getting your pitchforks and torches together?

:d

[sweet potata!]

1.   Massive Liverpool fan, even bigger Suarez fan!
2.   Screw loose; ban is reasonable for the crime.  Lucky to get 10 games, could have been more
3.   FA, shocking in their consistency of punishment for the crime.  Jermaine Defoe? Hmmmmm  seriously, take a look at yourselves! Yes IMO he has been singled out.  All this ‘he was dealt with on the pitch’ bullshit don’t wash with me, but hey ho, as I say ban is reasonable so take it and jog on.

4.   Rogers, do you really blame him for defending him!  Pretty sure Fergie defended Cantona after his kung fu style…  If you aren’t a Liverpool supporter, I think most people would be out to get him, doesn’t mean I think this is defendable at all, I don’t, but it certainly isn’t as bad as the media are making out! 
5.   Certainly needs to be reined in and worked on!  He is an unbelievable talent!  The frustrating thing for me is that I don’t think I’ve watched a Liverpool game with him playing and at some point during the game not gone ‘for f*&k sake Suarez’, for a dive, stamp, or something bad….  He needs to stop simple as before the clubs patience runs thin.  Trouble is, we aren’t man utd and can’t just dump him because of this, as we haven’t got the quality in depth at the moment to be able to do it.
I do find it quite amusing some of the comments on here, like ‘cowardly scumbag’ Jesus get a grip!  Football is all about paying for theatre!  The little dude gives some cracking viewing, granted goes a bit far sometimes, but hardly worthy of those types of comments.  Grow up aye!

That's what's annoying me about this whole thing. I mentioned it earlier but it wasn't received too well.

[77dave]

In dependant panel an nonce 10 game ban was decided as the incident was worse than a 3 match ban for kicking a ballboy and 6 match ban for a player tripping over the ref, so they give him a 3 match ban plus a further 7.

10 games ban was nothing to do with past crimes.

Wenger and Mancini both say ban is too long
Laudrup says ban is about right due to history.
Not really sure what dicanio said.

[aaron1867]

In dependant panel an nonce 10 game ban was decided as the incident was worse than a 3 match ban for kicking a ballboy and 6 match ban for a player tripping over the ref, so they give him a 3 match ban plus a further 7.

10 games ban was nothing to do with past crimes.

Wenger and Mancini both say ban is too long
Laudrup says ban is about right due to history.
Not really sure what dicanio said.

Harry thinks its fair.

[kinboshi]

In dependant panel an nonce 10 game ban was decided as the incident was worse than a 3 match ban for kicking a ballboy and 6 match ban for a player tripping over the ref, so they give him a 3 match ban plus a further 7.

10 games ban was nothing to do with past crimes.

Wenger and Mancini both say ban is too long
Laudrup says ban is about right due to history.
Not really sure what dicanio said.

Harry thinks its fair.

Harry should be in prison.

[77dave]

In dependant panel an nonce 10 game ban was decided as the incident was worse than a 3 match ban for kicking a ballboy and 6 match ban for a player tripping over the ref, so they give him a 3 match ban plus a further 7.

10 games ban was nothing to do with past crimes.

Wenger and Mancini both say ban is too long
Laudrup says ban is about right due to history.
Not really sure what dicanio said.

Harry thinks its fair.

harry thought it would be about 10 when media and politicians got involved

[sweet potata!]

The football governing body's so-called 'independent regulatory commission' is anything but, writes Kenny Dalglish

What Luis Suarez did when he bit Branislav Ivanovic was unacceptable. No one is disputing that.

As far as I am aware, no one at Liverpool Football Club is running away from their responsibilities over that.

The club has said that he was wrong. Luis, himself, has admitted that he was wrong, and they were both right and wise to accept the punishment yesterday.

The issue is clearly in the length of the player’s ban and the fact that the FA’s disciplinary system is a horrible mess.

Let’s start with the fact that the FA said before they had appointed the so-called ‘independent’ regulatory commission that Suarez deserved more than the normal three-game ban.

Well, by saying that, they prejudiced the findings of the commission before it has even begun.

They appointed the people to sit on it and they have told them they are there to give him more than three games.

So those three people know they have to give the player more than three games just to justify their existence.

How ‘independent’ does that make the three-man commission?

I wish the FA would just stop playing with words. Because this panel wasn’t truly independent and to say it was is blatantly misleading.

The FA chooses who sits on it to begin with. Does that make it ‘independent’?

And who sits on it? An ex-player, an FA council member and a lawyer already known to the FA.

So there’s an FA council member on an ‘independent’ FA commission. That’s convenient.

And there’s an ex-player, who would probably like to do more work for the FA. That’s convenient, too.

Are they paid, by the way? Are they paid by the FA? Do they do it for free? I don’t know the answer to those questions but

I’d like to know.

The point is that the structure of an FA disciplinary procedure like this is inherently unfair.

If you commit a crime in this country, you get the right for your case to be heard by a jury that has no affiliation or responsibility to the people prosecuting you.

That’s not how the FA works it. In fact, their disciplinary system has now become so confused and riddled with anomalies that it is farcical.

They hide behind excuses about the referee saw it or didn’t see it, punished it or didn’t punish it.

So Jermain Defoe bites Javier Mascherano on the arm and gets a yellow card. Nothing more.

Suarez bites Ivanovic and gets 10 games. Why? Because the referee didn’t see it.

He still spoke to him about something and looked like he was warning him but he didn’t see it.

For the benefit of football in this country, there has got to be greater clarification of the rules and more balance in the way offenders are judged.

The most important thing is not the length of the sentence but how they reach it and that information needs to be made public at the time the punishment is announced. That would have alleviated much of the unnecessary discussion about the ban handed down to Suarez.

The FA has been in need of widespread reform for a long time. The need is getting more and more pressing.

These regulatory commissions have to be independent in more than just name.

[George2Loose]

Stop making stupid excuses. Guy deserves his ban.