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« Reply #2235 on: December 07, 2010, 01:20:15 PM »

Think you will give us a hiding this week. I actually quite like Liverpool atm, think Lucas is really underrated, gl for rest of season too.

For me yes. Not even mentioned by the media outside of Liverpool when he's been our best player in several games this season.

His pass for Babel's goal last night was sublime.
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« Reply #2236 on: December 07, 2010, 01:55:05 PM »

Hodgson hasn't got a good recent history for away league wins? Errr he was manager of Fulham in the EPL. Should Fulham expect lots of away league wins? Nah, they see any away league point as a successful result. And on that note Hodgson got lots of away league points. So the guy was coaching his team to perform at optimum level. Does he think optimum at Liverpool is the same as optimum at Fulham? Course he doesn't. So I think it's lame to point to Hodgson's record at coaching players optimally at Fulham and suggest it proves what he can achieve at Liverpool if he coaches those players equally well.

Errr his away record in general is woeful. Errr his win ratio at large clubs is woeful.

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His win ratio at big clubs is woeful? His two spells at Inter show win ratios of 44% and 66%. Rafa's win ratio at Inter is currently 47%, and if you go compare the player talent at Inter in 95 and today you will see Roy had the much tougher job. From memory Inter's biggest star at the time was Paul Ince.

Roy's win ratio at Liverpool is 46%. Rafa's win ratio last year with HIS Liverpool team was 46%.

The facts clearly prove Hodgson's win ratio at big clubs is far from "woeful"
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« Reply #2237 on: December 07, 2010, 02:21:20 PM »

Rennes defender Rod Fanni will decided between a move to Liverpool and Marseille in the next 48 hours. Can play RB or CB. Likely to be 2nd choice at both clubs. Rennes would prefer him to more to Liverpool. Think it's for E3mil.
He's been on trial at Forest before. I think it was when Kinnear was there he said he wasn't better than what they had already. I went to see him in a pre-season friendly I'd be lying if I said I could remember much about the game. I do remember him though as the name Rod Fanni amused a few people.
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« Reply #2238 on: December 08, 2010, 01:47:26 AM »

Hodgson hasn't got a good recent history for away league wins? Errr he was manager of Fulham in the EPL. Should Fulham expect lots of away league wins? Nah, they see any away league point as a successful result. And on that note Hodgson got lots of away league points. So the guy was coaching his team to perform at optimum level. Does he think optimum at Liverpool is the same as optimum at Fulham? Course he doesn't. So I think it's lame to point to Hodgson's record at coaching players optimally at Fulham and suggest it proves what he can achieve at Liverpool if he coaches those players equally well.

Errr his away record in general is woeful. Errr his win ratio at large clubs is woeful.

Next.

His win ratio at big clubs is woeful? His two spells at Inter show win ratios of 44% and 66%. Rafa's win ratio at Inter is currently 47%, and if you go compare the player talent at Inter in 95 and today you will see Roy had the much tougher job. From memory Inter's biggest star at the time was Paul Ince.

Roy's win ratio at Liverpool is 46%. Rafa's win ratio last year with HIS Liverpool team was 46%.

The facts clearly prove Hodgson's win ratio at big clubs is far from "woeful"

Nice deceptive stat work there. 66% out of 3 games with his second spell at Inter - nice sample size. Please don't be that insulting with your "proof". He won 40 out of 89 games with Inter. Less than 45% which is woeful. Blackburn? Less than 36%. Fulham under 40%. In fact after Liverpool's worst start in 50 odd years his best win ratio at a big club is at Liverpool with just over 46%. Totally and utterly woeful.

Benitez had 53%+ at Valencia and 55%+ at Liverpool.

If you take away their small sample sizes at current clubs the evidence is compelling.
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« Reply #2239 on: December 08, 2010, 08:19:16 AM »

Hodgson hasn't got a good recent history for away league wins? Errr he was manager of Fulham in the EPL. Should Fulham expect lots of away league wins? Nah, they see any away league point as a successful result. And on that note Hodgson got lots of away league points. So the guy was coaching his team to perform at optimum level. Does he think optimum at Liverpool is the same as optimum at Fulham? Course he doesn't. So I think it's lame to point to Hodgson's record at coaching players optimally at Fulham and suggest it proves what he can achieve at Liverpool if he coaches those players equally well.

Errr his away record in general is woeful. Errr his win ratio at large clubs is woeful.

Next.

His win ratio at big clubs is woeful? His two spells at Inter show win ratios of 44% and 66%. Rafa's win ratio at Inter is currently 47%, and if you go compare the player talent at Inter in 95 and today you will see Roy had the much tougher job. From memory Inter's biggest star at the time was Paul Ince.

Roy's win ratio at Liverpool is 46%. Rafa's win ratio last year with HIS Liverpool team was 46%.

The facts clearly prove Hodgson's win ratio at big clubs is far from "woeful"

Nice deceptive stat work there. 66% out of 3 games with his second spell at Inter - nice sample size. Please don't be that insulting with your "proof". He won 40 out of 89 games with Inter. Less than 45% which is woeful. Blackburn? Less than 36%. Fulham under 40%. In fact after Liverpool's worst start in 50 odd years his best win ratio at a big club is at Liverpool with just over 46%. Totally and utterly woeful.

Benitez had 53%+ at Valencia and 55%+ at Liverpool.

If you take away their small sample sizes at current clubs the evidence is compelling.

Sorry buddy, I forgot to include his Blackburn stats in the performance at big clubs debate. But in fairness you forgot to include his Bristol City stats as well. Anyway here's a stat for you, Inter battered again.
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« Reply #2240 on: December 08, 2010, 09:05:08 AM »

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/edit-your-own-villa-highlights

This looks fun.
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« Reply #2241 on: December 08, 2010, 09:05:58 AM »

Hodgson hasn't got a good recent history for away league wins? Errr he was manager of Fulham in the EPL. Should Fulham expect lots of away league wins? Nah, they see any away league point as a successful result. And on that note Hodgson got lots of away league points. So the guy was coaching his team to perform at optimum level. Does he think optimum at Liverpool is the same as optimum at Fulham? Course he doesn't. So I think it's lame to point to Hodgson's record at coaching players optimally at Fulham and suggest it proves what he can achieve at Liverpool if he coaches those players equally well.

Errr his away record in general is woeful. Errr his win ratio at large clubs is woeful.

Next.

His win ratio at big clubs is woeful? His two spells at Inter show win ratios of 44% and 66%. Rafa's win ratio at Inter is currently 47%, and if you go compare the player talent at Inter in 95 and today you will see Roy had the much tougher job. From memory Inter's biggest star at the time was Paul Ince.

Roy's win ratio at Liverpool is 46%. Rafa's win ratio last year with HIS Liverpool team was 46%.

The facts clearly prove Hodgson's win ratio at big clubs is far from "woeful"

Nice deceptive stat work there. 66% out of 3 games with his second spell at Inter - nice sample size. Please don't be that insulting with your "proof". He won 40 out of 89 games with Inter. Less than 45% which is woeful. Blackburn? Less than 36%. Fulham under 40%. In fact after Liverpool's worst start in 50 odd years his best win ratio at a big club is at Liverpool with just over 46%. Totally and utterly woeful.

Benitez had 53%+ at Valencia and 55%+ at Liverpool.

If you take away their small sample sizes at current clubs the evidence is compelling.

Don't forget how badly Rafa did at Valencia.  Oh...
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« Reply #2242 on: December 08, 2010, 09:56:48 PM »

Hodgson hasn't got a good recent history for away league wins? Errr he was manager of Fulham in the EPL. Should Fulham expect lots of away league wins? Nah, they see any away league point as a successful result. And on that note Hodgson got lots of away league points. So the guy was coaching his team to perform at optimum level. Does he think optimum at Liverpool is the same as optimum at Fulham? Course he doesn't. So I think it's lame to point to Hodgson's record at coaching players optimally at Fulham and suggest it proves what he can achieve at Liverpool if he coaches those players equally well.

Errr his away record in general is woeful. Errr his win ratio at large clubs is woeful.

Next.

His win ratio at big clubs is woeful? His two spells at Inter show win ratios of 44% and 66%. Rafa's win ratio at Inter is currently 47%, and if you go compare the player talent at Inter in 95 and today you will see Roy had the much tougher job. From memory Inter's biggest star at the time was Paul Ince.

Roy's win ratio at Liverpool is 46%. Rafa's win ratio last year with HIS Liverpool team was 46%.

The facts clearly prove Hodgson's win ratio at big clubs is far from "woeful"

Nice deceptive stat work there. 66% out of 3 games with his second spell at Inter - nice sample size. Please don't be that insulting with your "proof". He won 40 out of 89 games with Inter. Less than 45% which is woeful. Blackburn? Less than 36%. Fulham under 40%. In fact after Liverpool's worst start in 50 odd years his best win ratio at a big club is at Liverpool with just over 46%. Totally and utterly woeful.

Benitez had 53%+ at Valencia and 55%+ at Liverpool.

If you take away their small sample sizes at current clubs the evidence is compelling.

Sorry buddy, I forgot to include his Blackburn stats in the performance at big clubs debate. But in fairness you forgot to include his Bristol City stats as well. Anyway here's a stat for you, Inter battered again.

Why would Bristol City be in there? Stop trying to undo your arguments with more stats like you just did lol.

I am happy to give Roy credit at home. We're playing really well at Anfield. But you're comparing a mid-league manager with someone in the elite category. It's pretty embarrassing.
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« Reply #2243 on: December 08, 2010, 09:59:58 PM »


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« Reply #2244 on: December 09, 2010, 06:29:33 AM »

Please let us get Benzema in Jan
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« Reply #2245 on: December 09, 2010, 10:19:18 AM »

Please let us get Benzema in Jan

I think you can get cream for that.
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« Reply #2246 on: December 09, 2010, 11:35:50 PM »

Please let us get Benzema in Jan

Agree but what a time to be a side with some money to spend. So much talent out there not already with a huge club.
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« Reply #2247 on: December 10, 2010, 02:58:07 AM »

Interesting stuff:

http://transferpriceindex.com/2010/10/damien-comolli-at-spurs-a-tpi-case-studyt/
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« Reply #2248 on: December 11, 2010, 07:22:17 PM »

Substitutionally Hodgson is an amatuer
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« Reply #2249 on: December 12, 2010, 12:33:04 AM »

Torres had a baby this week? Well he certainly had an abortion in front of goal today. That chance when he was clean through to make it 2-1 and only had the keeper to beat was badly fluffed. Lucas dropping off and inviting Carroll to shoot rather than closing his man down was piss poor. Both those players made horrendous errors which cost Liverpool the game. Hodgson didn't make any horrendous errors which cost Liverpool the game.
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