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« Reply #2205 on: November 28, 2010, 09:53:36 PM »

Pleased with the performance on the whole, and except for some poor finishing, a few lapses in defence and a ref who'd obviously met up with Harry in the car-park before the game for a brown envelope stuffed with cash, it would have been a much-deserved draw (or all 3 points) for Liverpool.

Keep playing like that, and I'll be happy.

Did you not think that should have been a penalty then?

No problems with the penalty that was given if the ref deemed it was in the area. I was taking about the multitude of yellow cards he was handing out to Liverpool players for lesser offences (some were fair challenges) than the challenge on Kuyt in the penalty area.  All the 'big' decisions were in favour of the home side.

But Liverpool only have themselves to blame for not winning or at least drawing the match - not the ref.
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« Reply #2206 on: November 28, 2010, 10:11:01 PM »

can't ever expect to win any prem game when u miss 3 1on1's so no complaints.
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« Reply #2207 on: November 29, 2010, 02:33:19 AM »

spurs had more posession, had more chances, and scored more goals, not sure how you work out liverpool being the better team baron!

True enough I spose but we had better quality possession for most of the game. Upon rewatching the game it could have been four all.
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« Reply #2208 on: November 29, 2010, 02:34:13 AM »

can't ever expect to win any prem game when u miss 3 1on1's so no complaints.


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« Reply #2209 on: November 29, 2010, 10:14:38 AM »

can't ever expect to win any prem game when u miss 3 1on1's so no complaints.


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Today lies with the players alone.

Yes, and Woy got it right with the set up and personnel.  It wasn't his fault that Maxi and Torres had a day when they decided to impersonate Carlton Cole.  Torres' pass to Maxi for one of his chances was exquisite though, shame he doesn't have his touch running into the area with the ball, chances that you probably wouldn't want any other player in the world to have the ball instead of Torres.  Hopefully, he'll be slotting them away for fun soon.

On the positives.  Meireles and Lucas played well in the middle (loved a lot of Lucas' tackling) and we didn't look like a team missing one of the best players in the world.
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« Reply #2210 on: December 02, 2010, 06:38:31 PM »

Is there game on the box anywhere atm coz i cant seem to find it?
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« Reply #2211 on: December 02, 2010, 07:38:51 PM »

Is there game on the box anywhere atm coz i cant seem to find it?

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« Reply #2212 on: December 02, 2010, 09:03:58 PM »

shelvey was under instructions tonight to not get forward. strange decision to play an attacking midfielder and tell him not to attack
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« Reply #2213 on: December 02, 2010, 10:23:09 PM »

shelvey was under instructions tonight to not get forward. strange decision to play an attacking midfielder and tell him not to attack

every time ive seen shelvey play he's been poor. Shite touch and unbelievably slow.

And Joe cole, the guys horrible. Wonder why chelski let him go for free
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« Reply #2214 on: December 03, 2010, 12:09:05 AM »

shelvey was under instructions tonight to not get forward. strange decision to play an attacking midfielder and tell him not to attack

every time ive seen shelvey play he's been poor. Shite touch and unbelievably slow.

And Joe cole, the guys horrible. Wonder why chelski let him go for free

You know I started to wonder about Shelvey's pace. I mean I remember Gerrard at 18 and all you saw was pace and aggression and his technical side came on later. In reserve matches I'm not seeing it so much with Shelvey.
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« Reply #2215 on: December 03, 2010, 06:25:39 PM »

Liverpool youngsters Daniel Pacheco and Martin Kelly have signed extended contracts at Anfield until 2014, the club confirmed on Friday.

Spanish forward Pacheco, 19, has signed a two-year contract extension which keeps him at the club until June 30, 2014.

20-year-old full-back Kelly has signed a three-year extension, tying him to the club to the same date.

Pacheco has featured just once as a substitute in Premier League action so far this season but Kelly has been more heavily involved, starting two league games and eight Europa League ties.

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« Reply #2216 on: December 04, 2010, 04:28:09 PM »

Congrats to Roy and Liverpool for topping their Europa League group. Commiserations to Rafa and treble winning Inter for getting bashed up yet again in the league.
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« Reply #2217 on: December 04, 2010, 04:49:52 PM »

Congrats to Roy and Liverpool for topping their Europa League group. Commiserations to Rafa and treble winning Inter for getting bashed up yet again in the league.

Who do you prefer as a manager,Hodgson or Benitez ??
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« Reply #2218 on: December 04, 2010, 07:01:16 PM »

Congrats to Roy and Liverpool for topping their Europa League group. Commiserations to Rafa and treble winning Inter for getting bashed up yet again in the league.

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« Reply #2219 on: December 05, 2010, 12:04:40 PM »

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Sunday December 05 2010
We've all had enough pain. We've all had enough misery and dissembling. But the next 24 hours will bring more, although it will be disguised as a heart-warming story of friends re-united. Gerard Houllier returns to Anfield tomorrow and he will be met there by his great friend Roy Hodgson.
If you had Roy Hodgson's away record, you too would have many friends in football. Since August 2009, Hodgson has won two league matches away from home, so it is no surprise he is greeted warmly wherever he goes.
Hodgson, as he repeatedly reminds people, may be one of the game's most respected figures, but when he walks through the front door of a football club, he is also a walking, talking three points for the home side. All that is left is to choose the wine. They spend a lot of time talking abut wine.
Instead of points, he accumulates friends, who tell him how well he's doing in his latest job, the management of the decline of Liverpool.
He will be emboldened by the words from his great friend Houllier, who returns to Anfield, despite never really having left. From afar, he guided Liverpool to victory in the Champions League in Istanbul. It was his side, a side containing Djimi Traore, that won the European Cup. At the UEFA conferences where he sees his friends or when he sits down with a journalist, Houllier tells them this and they nod sagely. It is a version of the truth. Signing Djimi Traore was Houllier's achievement. Winning the European Cup with Djimi Traore was Rafael Benitez's.
These stories of managerial bonhomie are not complete without mention of the "good bottle of red" that one has decanted for another. The mistrust of Arsene Wenger by many stems from the fact that Wenger, though clearly French, eschews the good bottle of red.
There will be more talk of red wine in the build-up to tomorrow's game than during a Keith Floyd show where he is cooking coq au vin with red wine gravy followed by a red wine tapioca pudding.
They are both friends with Alex Ferguson too. Ferguson has acquired many friends in football, but he has rarely shown up at a football ground without considering if he could build a lifelong grudge around the presence of some enemy in the vicinity.
Hodgson last week described Liverpool's draw in the FA Cup with United as "sad". There are eight members of the team that won 4-1 at Old Trafford still in Liverpool's squad. Hodgson will be able to pick on seven of them and the painful decline of Jamie Carragher means he will not miss the eighth.
If Liverpool have disintegrated since that time, Manchester United have got no better. Hodgson's sadness was over the meeting of two big teams in the third round, but there was the underlying sadness as he jokes about putting on his make-up for live TV that, once again, his real record would be scrutinised and exposed.
He is just a patsy. Most of those who appointed him are no longer employed at Anfield but yet he must muddle on.
Many of his supporters in the media castigate Liverpool fans for abandoning their principles and not showing the patience they have traditionally granted previous managers. This, they will claim, is a reflection, of our impatient times with its demand for instant gratification (my problem with instant gratification is that it takes too long).
Yet Liverpool fans were pretty patient with Benitez and that was six months ago. It may not be the times that have changed just the credentials of the incumbent.
Hodgson's supporters still point to his record, highlighting in all seriousness his exploits at Fulham. There is no real success. Hodgson has never won a league title outside Scandinavia.
His methods, as he put it himself, "have translated from Halmstads to Malmo, to Orebo to Neuchatel Xamax, to the Swiss national team".
Liverpool fans are not showing impatience with Hodgson, they are voicing their feeling that he was the wrong appointment for a club that demands more than going a year without an away win and nobody noticing.
It could be that those who praised Hodgson so highly weren't really paying attention. It was easy to praise a friendly and welcoming manager while he was at Fulham. It was easy, even if he was going from one end of the season to the next without winning away from home to talk about his exploits.
One journalist recently wrote a piece defending Hodgson (guess what? He needs time). Liverpool fans were criticised for chanting Kenny Dalglish's name and the writer wondered if maybe Liverpool fans should get Dalglish just to see how they would react if it was a Dalglish side that lost at home to Northampton, went into the bottom three or lost at Stoke.
It was Hodgson who did this but it seems it is always somebody else's problem.
Usually, it is Benitez's. Last week's news that Liverpool incurred £9m in agents' fees thanks solely to Benitez was another example. This cost came about "tackling the legacy of the previous regime" as it was widely reported.
Hodgson arrived saying Liverpool were over-staffed and then recruited Konchesky, Poulsen and Joe Cole while letting some young talent go and releasing a finally fit Alberto Aquilani on loan.
The reality is that Hodgson has discovered that Liverpool is a club apart, uninterested in the soothing words from the media.
"Everyone I know in football respects the job I'm doing here and aren't too surprised it hasn't been an easy start," he said last week as he anticipated a meeting with another old friend, Harry Redknapp, before reminding people that Jose Mourinho had said Liverpool will get "worse and worse". Hodgson left White Hart Lane pointless and characteristically fatalistic, even after a good bottle of red.
Tomorrow promises more warmth and conviviality. Hodgson and Houllier will talk about their mutual respect and reflect on their great gifts of survival, skipping over their exploits which have earned them such admiration from their many friends in football.
A draw would be the most fitting demonstration of this great bromance.
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