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« Reply #4980 on: January 22, 2012, 04:36:06 PM »

If this Liverpool mamanger wasn't called Dalglish, the outcry for him to be sacked given results and money spent would be huge, I reckon
Just a change of name and he gets sacked or are you also changing the managerial record?
I think if his last name was Mourinho he'd get a couple of seasons.
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« Reply #4981 on: January 22, 2012, 04:43:10 PM »

If this Liverpool mamanger wasn't called Dalglish, the outcry for him to be sacked given results and money spent would be huge, I reckon
Just a change of name and he gets sacked or are you also changing the managerial record?
I think if his last name was Mourinho he'd get a couple of seasons.

Exactly. 2nd best defence in the league. Most chances created. Woodwork hit most times. Possession stats pretty good. Best players injured/banned in large chunks. Obv the finishing has been dire but he literally just had 12 months. Ridiculous knee jerk to think about a sacking now.
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« Reply #4982 on: January 22, 2012, 04:44:44 PM »

Playing Kuyt upfront by himself. Bad management of Carroll, not using your best player (Bellamy) often enough/in the right games. Spending big money on very average player (Adam/Henderson) guys awful.
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« Reply #4983 on: January 22, 2012, 04:46:39 PM »

Playing Kuyt upfront by himself. Bad management of Carroll, not using your best player (Bellamy) often enough/in the right games. Spending big money on very average player (Adam/Henderson) guys awful.

Pretty common knowledge Carroll is unfit/disinterested and Bellamy's knees are fooked.

Signings haven't been brilliant though no.
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« Reply #4984 on: January 22, 2012, 04:49:16 PM »

Players like Carroll get fit from playing. They aren't the kind of guys to do a huge amount on the training ground. It's like your neighbours not putting Big Dunc in the team because he didn't look very fit after not playing half a dozen games.

He is a confidence player and will never ever have form for you if he is a bit part player, the team has to revolve around him like it did at Newcastle otherwise it simply won't work.
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« Reply #4985 on: January 22, 2012, 04:54:47 PM »

Players like Carroll get fit from playing. They aren't the kind of guys to do a huge amount on the training ground. It's like your neighbours not putting Big Dunc in the team because he didn't look very fit after not playing half a dozen games.

He is a confidence player and will never ever have form for you if he is a bit part player, the team has to revolve around him like it did at Newcastle otherwise it simply won't work.

Disagree on the whole. Carroll's form this season is 80% down to him. He's been awful in huge chunks. Players who prepare properly like Maxi, Bellamy, (dare I say) Kuyt don't come in and play terribly. Turning up with a black eye or an injured thigh after a night out etc doesn't really translate to being the manager's fault imo.
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« Reply #4986 on: January 22, 2012, 04:58:01 PM »

Yea poor by Liverpool, we really should be playing AC more so that he can hit his full quota of pints and still play football.
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« Reply #4987 on: January 22, 2012, 05:01:47 PM »

Has he really been given a run of games though? Seems like u splashed out squillions on a player and don't want to build the team round him. Strange
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« Reply #4988 on: January 22, 2012, 05:03:21 PM »

Has he really been given a run of games though? Seems like u splashed out squillions on a player and don't want to build the team round him. Strange

Rooney goes on a night out and is dropped. Why do people expect Carroll to play in the same circumstances? Bizarre.
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« Reply #4989 on: January 22, 2012, 05:07:35 PM »

Has he really been given a run of games though? Seems like u splashed out squillions on a player and don't want to build the team round him. Strange

Rooney goes on a night out and is dropped. Why do people expect Carroll to play in the same circumstances? Bizarre.

So the reason AC hasn't been in the side for a year is fitness and attitude? Weren't these problems well documented before you spent 35 mill on him?
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« Reply #4990 on: January 22, 2012, 05:17:17 PM »

Has he really been given a run of games though? Seems like u splashed out squillions on a player and don't want to build the team round him. Strange

Rooney goes on a night out and is dropped. Why do people expect Carroll to play in the same circumstances? Bizarre.

So the reason AC hasn't been in the side for a year is fitness and attitude? Weren't these problems well documented before you spent 35 mill on him?

Ah ok so we shouldn't have bought him. Gotcha. But that's changing your argument from "well he's not really had a run of games" (ie, he's been managed badly) to suit your needs.
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« Reply #4991 on: January 22, 2012, 05:18:51 PM »

Has he really been given a run of games though? Seems like u splashed out squillions on a player and don't want to build the team round him. Strange

Rooney goes on a night out and is dropped. Why do people expect Carroll to play in the same circumstances? Bizarre.

So the reason AC hasn't been in the side for a year is fitness and attitude? Weren't these problems well documented before you spent 35 mill on him?

Ah ok so we shouldn't have bought him. Gotcha. But that's changing your argument from "well he's not really had a run of games" (ie, he's been managed badly) to suit your needs.

I'm asking a genuine question. Why isn't he playing? Is it form? Attitude? Binge drinking? Playing style? All of the above?
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« Reply #4992 on: January 22, 2012, 05:23:49 PM »

Has he really been given a run of games though? Seems like u splashed out squillions on a player and don't want to build the team round him. Strange

Rooney goes on a night out and is dropped. Why do people expect Carroll to play in the same circumstances? Bizarre.

So the reason AC hasn't been in the side for a year is fitness and attitude? Weren't these problems well documented before you spent 35 mill on him?

Ah ok so we shouldn't have bought him. Gotcha. But that's changing your argument from "well he's not really had a run of games" (ie, he's been managed badly) to suit your needs.

I'm asking a genuine question. Why isn't he playing? Is it form? Attitude? Binge drinking? Playing style? All of the above?

All of the above? Like I say, Andy Carroll getting a run and then playing well is largely within his power. I'm not saying Kenny is the best manager on Earth, but I dont think even he expected to spend 35m then Carroll to be on the bench this much/be so ineffective.
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« Reply #4993 on: January 22, 2012, 05:26:56 PM »

Do you think we will making a signing this window to impact the starting XI?
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Mantis - I would like to thank 77dave for his more realistic take on things.
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« Reply #4994 on: January 22, 2012, 05:29:25 PM »

Do you think we will making a signing this window to impact the starting XI?

Yup
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