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« on: June 11, 2007, 04:15:01 AM »

Dac45588 - Semi-loose/aggressive vp$ip 22% - pfr - 10% based on 300+ hands, seems to know what hes doing.

GAME #572818824: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2007-06-11 01:52:34
Table Nurburgring
Seat 3: P0nt00n86 ($643.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Flojack ($83.70 in chips)
Seat 6: dac45588 ($579.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 8: nbvnfobn ($367.30 in chips)
nbvnfobn: Post SB $2.00
P0nt00n86: Post BB $4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to P0nt00n86 [   ]
Flojack: Fold
dac45588: Raise $16.00
nbvnfobn: Call $14.00
P0nt00n86: Raise $38.00
dac45588: Call $26.00
nbvnfobn: Call $26.00
*** FLOP *** [     ]
nbvnfobn: Check
P0nt00n86: Bet $82.00
dac45588: Raise $212.00
nbvnfobn: Fold

It's Your Turn...
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2007, 04:57:47 AM »

Yuck. A fold for me, without any evidence that he's liable to do this with nothing. And it's hardly the best flop to do this with nothing, given that you've made a reraise that looks like it wants a call.

The flop connects with so much of his range that I'd have thought the chances of being well behind here are substantial. And if he's drawing then that's likely to be a flush draw with straight draw or pair with a straight/flush draw, and pretty much a coinflip. I can't see much that you're well ahead of. I guess if he has got some sort of combi draw then you might just about be able to call here and shove a blank turn without quite giving him odds to call (as a alternative to shoving the flop). But again, factoring in the times he's got you beat anyway I can't really see how this would help.

I play lower stakes than this, but that's my opinion FWIW.


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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2007, 10:18:53 AM »

In my opinion you have to reraise much bigger pre flop. With the money already in the pot I make it $60ish to go. The raise to $38 just bloats the pot and leaves you in a tough spot v 2 opponents with a marginal hand.

Oh and BTW in my experience with Dac he is a calling station pre flop. Once he has entered a pot Pre Flop he never seems to fold if it is reraised - (or mayb thats just against me)



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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2007, 12:07:16 PM »

Do you have to reraise preflop here?
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2007, 12:15:19 PM »

Do you have to reraise preflop here?

4 handed cash game, yes
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2007, 12:20:18 PM »

i disagree. And even if you feel you have to you havent reraised enough and are pretty much guarenteed to be playing the pot out of position. reraise more, or not at all.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2007, 12:43:08 PM »

Hence..........

In my opinion you have to reraise much bigger pre flop. With the money already in the pot I make it $60ish to go. The raise to $38 just bloats the pot and leaves you in a tough spot v 2 opponents with a marginal hand.

Oh and BTW in my experience with Dac he is a calling station pre flop so he could have anything here. Once he has entered a pot Pre Flop he never seems to fold if it is reraised - (or mayb thats just against me)


Calling here is bad imo, you will miss more often and not and have to check fold. There is just too much chance that with a bigger raise you take it down pre flop. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 12:47:03 PM »

So why didnt you reraise bigger then??
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2007, 01:02:04 PM »

Def agree that you should raise more pre.  There are a stack of hands that you are beating that he would play this way so I'm for pushing.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2007, 10:04:29 PM »

So why didnt you reraise bigger then??

If you cared to read the post a little more closely you would see that I did not start this thread and if I had played the hand I would have reraised bigger.
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