Was She right to push?

[Acidmouse]

Local casino 16 left, top 7 paid. Blinds 600/1200

I have 20k in chips and UTG makes 3k raise with  gets around to BB the dealer who has about 26k left and pushes all in. I call without too much thought and think with the speed she pushed I might be behind, she turnes over 

Now this got me thinking did I do right calling the all in? was she correct moving what would be 80% of her chips with at best a coinflip? I mean if I am going to raise with crap it would not be UTG would it?

Ofcourse standard    and I am out.

Was her play bad or was it me?

[dime]

I cann't see much with your move, I think I would have done much the same thing (or possibly call-pushed but only if the cercumstances were right). The push with 7,7s is particuly agressive but not nessisarily wrong, unless you have AA you should probly have to think about calling all your chips off and with your actual holding I don't think I would have called. This would also depend on the type of player she was, had you seen here do this type of play before with ace-x? If I had seen her make this type of move with high cards then I would be more likely to call, AK is only strong when the other player has an ace also. If they have a pair at best your under 50% to win (less if they have KK or AA), you're not in a weak position as far as chips are concerned if you fold.

In answer to your questions, I think her move was a bold one and your call was a gamble, although previous play could change this opion.

[kinboshi]

I'm not sure I like the call at all here with the AK.  Any pocket pair, and you're a slight dog in the coin-flip.  Any other two cards, and you're not a huge favourite.  Of course, if she has AA or KK - you're in more trouble.

The push with the 77 is certainly aggressive, and she's probably thinking anything except for a very big pair is going to be uncomfortable calling off the rest of their stack here.

Of course, it does depend on what the play's been like, and if she's been pushing with anything or if you've been raising with atc as well.

[Acidmouse]

Ahh some good points, she had pushed all in around 2-3 times in the last 30mins and only showed her cards once with kk.

I would have accepted a 50/50 before seeing her cards, I didn't mind a gamble as my coinflips had been going well recently with a A K flop i thought this good luck was to continue.

I guess I could have laid them down, but they were suited!

[boldie]

good push..not a bad calll either

[ifm]

Did Ironside teach you how to play AK?

[johnbhoy76]

I call without too much though 

That's the key sentence here.

Not saying I wouldn't have called myself but I'd at least have given it some thought

Even if she has randon carbage like T 3 os she's not that far behind AK. It's about a 65-35 shot. AK is not that good a hand to be calling an all-in with as it is behind to any pocket pair.

[Acidmouse]

Did Ironside teach you how to play AK?

Offer some advice...

[ifm]

Did Ironside teach you how to play AK?

Offer some advice...

I push UTG with AK here every single time, i think it's difficult for her to call but it is an easy reraise for her as you have to fold pretty much anything other than JJ+
You gave her the opportunity instead of keeping it yourself, wouldn't you have folded 77 to such a large bet in her position?
This is the best stage of a tourny where stealing blinds for fun is the way to go, ok if you get called you take your chances but you shouldn't be giving up your FE.
You've lost 3k but you can easily get that back by aggressive play in the next orbit.
So basically i say fold the AK and use your chips to better advantage.

[Longy]

I like the call, if she is pushing over the top with 77, she is also doing this with aq/aj which gives easily enough equity in the hand to make us a favourite against her overall range.

As for the shove with 77 its kind of marginal depending on your opponent, ie what his opening range utg and how much fold equity in the hand. I think we have too many chips to shove here, though its +ev, standard raising its a more optimal play IMO, as we can c-bet a flop and still not be pot comitted.

[temp0r]

limp-re-raise all-in at this stage.

[lazaroonie]

Local casino 16 left, top 7 paid. Blinds 600/1200

I have 20k in chips and UTG makes 3k raise with  gets around to BB the dealer who has about 26k left and pushes all in. I call without too much thought and think with the speed she pushed I might be behind, she turnes over 

Now this got me thinking did I do right calling the all in? was she correct moving what would be 80% of her chips with at best a coinflip? I mean if I am going to raise with crap it would not be UTG would it?

Ofcourse standard    and I am out.

Was her play bad or was it me?

I like the push - quite a common move when getting close to final table/bubble.

one point though - when she pushes there are two ways she can win the hand, by you folding, or by you calling and her hand holding up. After she pushes, there is only one way you can win it - by outdrawing her.

why only raise to 3K, if you were going to call any raise anyway ? stick em in, in give the decision to someone else...


to conclude - good push, slightly fishy call...

[tantrum]

Local casino 16 left, top 7 paid. Blinds 600/1200

I have 20k in chips and UTG makes 3k raise with  gets around to BB the dealer who has about 26k left and pushes all in. I call without too much thought and think with the speed she pushed I might be behind, she turnes over 

Now this got me thinking did I do right calling the all in? was she correct moving what would be 80% of her chips with at best a coinflip? I mean if I am going to raise with crap it would not be UTG would it?

Ofcourse standard    and I am out.

Was her play bad or was it me?

I like the push - quite a common move when getting close to final table/bubble.

one point though - when she pushes there are two ways she can win the hand, by you folding, or by you calling and her hand holding up. After she pushes, there is only one way you can win it - by outdrawing her.

why only raise to 3K, if you were going to call any raise anyway ? stick em in, in give the decision to someone else...


to conclude - good push, slightly fishy call...

Ditto

[Royal Flush]

lol @ these massive overshoves with AK, what do you all think it looks like?

[Acidmouse]

Cheers for the advice, maybe if could have laid it down or increased my raise before her push. Either way I live and learn, was fun night.