Rasing Question (following a ruling)

[Junior Senior]

it's not hard, if someone raises 300 then u have to re-raise at least 300.

Forget the total bet.

What he said. A third person can also raise 300 behind the first two.

ahhh, finally some simplicity to this thread! -

so errr.... what he said!

[Dingdell]

I understand that - but what about a tacical raise I saw the other day which confounded me. The guy called my all in - which was an under raise by the way - and there was a ruling that the next guy to bet couldn't reraise on top of that as the first guy had just called an under raise.  Does that make sense?

Help!!!!

[Royal Flush]

IF it was his first action then he should have been able to raise. If it was his 2nd action he can only call or fold

[Longy]

Seems like the right ruling to me i presume we are talking pre flop here. If player 1 makes it 600 to go,that is a call of 300 and a raise of 300 therefore the min raise is to call the 600 and put 300 more on top. Of course if it was post flop and player makes it 600 the min raise is then 600 with 600 more (1200 total) as this is a bet of 600 and no call is involved as the player has the option to check.
 
Dingdell if someone has gone all in and it is an under raise of the original raise then other players who haven't called the original raise can raise again. Anyone who has called the original raise can only call the all in as its under raise and therefore you are attempting to raise that under raise which is against the rules. That prob makes no sense but i tried.

[Longy]

Oh yeah as its your thread Phil, how did you end up getting on last night.

[Phil]

Guess.

[Longy]

Hmm your asking me to guess so i would say somewhere between 11th and 20th where the massive life changing payouts are. You should be able to buy me in next week if thats the case, with your new found wealth .

[Phil]

Spot on. 13th this week. And this week it was £40 from 16th-20th and £50 11th-15th so I made that extra £10 that actually put me in profit! 

[AdamM]

and 14th for me

[Phil]

What great guys to swap a % with hey?

[Malc-M]

Sorry to open this up again Junior but---This under raise question causes lots of problems.

Say I am in first position with Aces --I slow play them and get a A Rag Rag flop with a big stack and a very short stack.
I might check big stack raise and then the small stack under raise all in--

Surely it should be reasonable for me to be allowed to rr the big stack -- because otherwise the existance of the shrt stack denies me the opportunity to check raise...

Thoughts??
Malc-m

[Longy]

Yeah brilliant Phil and Adam im going to be a rich man with you two bubbling together before the real money. Hmmm what should i buy a new car or maybe a deposit on a house. No seriously a good effort to get that far and it really is a case of winning a few all ins with marginal hands at that stage, all in the lap of the poker gods.

[Nightfly]

Sorry to open this up again Junior but---This under raise question causes lots of problems.

Say I am in first position with Aces --I slow play them and get a A Rag Rag flop with a big stack and a very short stack.
I might check big stack raise and then the small stack under raise all in--

Surely it should be reasonable for me to be allowed to rr the big stack -- because otherwise the existance of the shrt stack denies me the opportunity to check raise...

Thoughts??
Malc-m

Malc..

In this situation you can re-raise the big stack. However if you just call the raise and the underraise, the big stack cannot take advantage of the under-raise by raising again.

In effect, you are raising the original bet and not the under-raise.


Phil...

Nice to know you believed my ruling ido sometimes know what i'm doing you know

[Ironside]

its as nightfly said

to put it simply you cannot raise a person that has already called your bet if another player has under raised you

[ifm]

i wanna know why on crytpo if a player in the big blind doesn't have enough to cover it the rest of the table only has to call what he has, deeply unfair.
i.e.
SB 150
BB 300 but only has 160
next players only have to call 160 to see a flop!!
It's wrong wrong wrong!!