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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2007, 10:54:46 AM »

I'm not sure AndrewT's example is a case of collusion - its more a tactical decision and he'd be doing it without the knowledge of his teammate.

Its similar to the situations around the bubble where its theoretically correct to fold AA.

I'd class collusion as something where teammates are sharing information about hands during the course of an event and making decisions based on this.

Yeah, 'collusion' was the wrong word. 'Team play' would be better.

Something else to watch out for are false positives. I raise with a sub-standard hand to nick the blinds (I think I did it once two years ago and may try it again sometime). A teammate of mine pushes all-in behind me. I have to fold. 'Collusion!!' the cry goes up.


again, understood...but that will teach you for trying to steal.

 
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2007, 11:07:46 AM »

I'm not sure AndrewT's example is a case of collusion - its more a tactical decision and he'd be doing it without the knowledge of his teammate.

Its similar to the situations around the bubble where its theoretically correct to fold AA.

I'd class collusion as something where teammates are sharing information about hands during the course of an event and making decisions based on this.

Yeah, 'collusion' was the wrong word. 'Team play' would be better.

Something else to watch out for are false positives. I raise with a sub-standard hand to nick the blinds (I think I did it once two years ago and may try it again sometime). A teammate of mine pushes all-in behind me. I have to fold. 'Collusion!!' the cry goes up.

again, understood...but that will teach you for trying to steal.
 

Good point - I'll only play AA then.

Or KK, in position.
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2007, 11:17:44 AM »

I'm not sure AndrewT's example is a case of collusion - its more a tactical decision and he'd be doing it without the knowledge of his teammate.

Its similar to the situations around the bubble where its theoretically correct to fold AA.

I'd class collusion as something where teammates are sharing information about hands during the course of an event and making decisions based on this.

Yeah, 'collusion' was the wrong word. 'Team play' would be better.

Something else to watch out for are false positives. I raise with a sub-standard hand to nick the blinds (I think I did it once two years ago and may try it again sometime). A teammate of mine pushes all-in behind me. I have to fold. 'Collusion!!' the cry goes up.

again, understood...but that will teach you for trying to steal.
 

Good point - I'll only play AA then.

Or KK, in position.

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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2007, 11:19:20 AM »

I'm not sure AndrewT's example is a case of collusion - its more a tactical decision and he'd be doing it without the knowledge of his teammate.

Its similar to the situations around the bubble where its theoretically correct to fold AA.

I'd class collusion as something where teammates are sharing information about hands during the course of an event and making decisions based on this.

Yeah, 'collusion' was the wrong word. 'Team play' would be better.

Something else to watch out for are false positives. I raise with a sub-standard hand to nick the blinds (I think I did it once two years ago and may try it again sometime). A teammate of mine pushes all-in behind me. I have to fold. 'Collusion!!' the cry goes up.

again, understood...but that will teach you for trying to steal.
 

Good point - I'll only play AA then.

Or KK, in position.

LAG

Bear in mind I'm only playing KK to hit the set.
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2007, 12:18:08 PM »

Will someone adopt me into a team, and then remind me what to do/when to do it please?

I enjoy this sort of thing but I'm soo disorganised.
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2007, 01:35:42 PM »

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Yeah, 'collusion' was the wrong word. 'Team play' would be better.

Maybe team play should just be accepted - it is a team event, after all. The rules could prohibit communication between team mates while in the game - but not any tactical team decisions. So in this event it could be perfectly permissible to try to dump chips to a team mate to keep them in the game. As long as everyone knows who's in which teams, then maybe it would add an extra dimension to the game - trying to work out whether that raise is genuine or just an attempt to move chips around, etc.

It would be good for this purpose if everyone could have a screenname that gave their team name, but I don't know if this would be possible.

If you're playing in teams for team points for a team prize, then appealing to people not to play tactically as a team seems a bit daft. I reckon you just allow/encourage it.
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2007, 02:19:32 PM »

In fact, on second thoughts, why not just allow all team play/collusion? Surely collusion's only such a dirty word because it usually refers to people playing as a team against those who play on their own and don't have the same advantage. That's not the case here - you can give as good as you get. Genuine team poker. I might have missed something (probably have) - but I think it would be fascinating to see how it worked.
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2007, 02:20:43 PM »

This is on ipoker (well half of it at least).  There isn't time for collusion!
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2007, 02:25:34 PM »

I do like having it so that fewest points wins the league. If only the current Blonde league operated the same way, I'd be top.
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2007, 02:40:15 PM »

I do like having it so that fewest points wins the league. If only the current Blonde league operated the same way, I'd be top.

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You battled hard to maintain your starting stack last night.  Sorted your memory out (or did you forget)?
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2007, 02:46:20 PM »

Thanks for reminding me, I'll do it now.
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2007, 02:51:27 PM »

Lol, never used this smiley before........

or you can just choose 4 team mates without a life..Matt? Scott?



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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2007, 03:01:56 PM »

Lol, never used this smiley before........

or you can just choose 4 team mates without a life..Matt? Scott?






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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2007, 03:11:31 PM »

Do you want to join us Matt?

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3. Any players not participating in a round will be awarded points equal to the total number of players in that round plus 10.

Surely this has an advantage to those teams with 3 in them?  If I have a team of 5, there's more chance that someone can't make an event so the team will suffer max points plus 10.  Also, with only the best three entries counting two are always surplus.  Would a better idea not to have teams of up to 5 but you must field at least 3 players otherwise you forfeit to get the max points plus 10?

OK I haven't explained it well but you get the idea Cheesy

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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2007, 03:19:02 PM »

Do you want to join us Matt?

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3. Any players not participating in a round will be awarded points equal to the total number of players in that round plus 10.

Surely this has an advantage to those teams with 3 in them?  If I have a team of 5, there's more chance that someone can't make an event so the team will suffer max points plus 10.  Also, with only the best three entries counting two are always surplus.  Would a better idea not to have teams of up to 5 but you must field at least 3 players otherwise you forfeit to get the max points plus 10?

OK I haven't explained it well but you get the idea Cheesy

No thank you squire - poker is a game for individuals not for teams. The heads up is slightly different as you will never be sat at the same table with a member of your own team. Have tried playing poker like this once before many years ago when i first started learning the game and the "team" ethic goes against most of the principles i had of "playing to win". Most of the games turned into a joke when they were getting short handed so i stopped playing.
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