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« on: July 01, 2007, 12:45:07 AM »

FullTiltPoker Game #2812848762: $110 + $9 Sit & Go (Turbo) (21456079), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:17:24 ET - 2007/06/30
Seat 1: l_Ret-50_l (3,508)
Seat 2: NANNYANDPAPA (1,985)
Seat 4: jeppg1111 (3,502)
Seat 5: LawmakerDonk (650)
Seat 6: wolfie59 (1,044)
Seat 8: UpTheMariners (2,811)
wolfie59 posts the small blind of 100
UpTheMariners posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to UpTheMariners [ ]
l_Ret-50_l folds
NANNYANDPAPA folds
jeppg1111 folds
LawmakerDonk raises to 650, and is all in
wolfie59 raises to 1,044, and is all in
UpTheMariners has 15 seconds left to act

It's Your Turn...
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 12:56:29 AM »

Let them fight, move out of the way, IMO
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2007, 01:51:09 AM »

Conventional wisdom would say pass with 3 to go till the money but that said it only costs 800 to have a shot at the pair of them.
Personally i call, if you win you have too many chips to lose second spot at least.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2007, 03:20:59 PM »

fold let em fight it out so 1 of them is either very short or out.. then lessppl to worry about for def.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2007, 03:22:02 PM »

it's a fold for me...
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2007, 04:16:20 PM »

i cant think of any reason to call. You know your behind. Why risk a reasonable portion of your stack just on the hope of knocking them out. If you had a pair say 9's or better, i would call but not 7,8 suited.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2007, 11:40:16 PM »

wolfie needs a hand to re-raise all in here. obviously the shortie is pushing any 2 but for wolfie to push when he's not gonna be hit by a blind for another 4 hands i think he's got a decent enough range here to allow for you to pass.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 11:45:37 PM »

wolfie needs a hand to re-raise all in here. obviously the shortie is pushing any 2 but for wolfie to push when he's not gonna be hit by a blind for another 4 hands i think he's got a decent enough range here to allow for you to pass.

Or he's trying to isolate with a medium pair

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2007, 01:07:47 PM »

soon as i get home from work i'm gonna throw my math at you with this one!
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 06:55:07 PM »

Its a fold for me.  As has been pointed out no need to risk a large chunk of your chips by taking on two players in this spot.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2007, 07:14:02 PM »

soon as i get home from work i'm gonna throw my math at you with this one!

pot size 1,994
844 for me to call
1,967 left if i lose
4,805 if i win + 2 players knocked out
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2007, 08:31:43 PM »

Chances are you are up against an overpair which makes you around a 7/1 dog making it an easy fold for me. 

At best you are probably facing 3 or 4 overcards which is worse than a 4/1 dog (I think).  The pot is only offering you 2.3/1 which is not good enough given your hand's chances against your opponents possible holdings.  You might be up against an underpair and 2 overs but even then you are worse than 3/1.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2007, 10:09:24 PM »

Lawmakerdonk m is =2
Wolfie59 m is= 3.3

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both in late position what makes you think any of them have a big hand?
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2007, 10:12:23 PM »

Lawmakerdonk m is =2
Wolfie59 m is= 3.3

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both in late position what makes you think any of them have a big hand?

they don't need to have a big hand..but you don't have one either...you only have 8 high here. it has to be a fold
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2007, 02:14:41 AM »

Hmmm interesting im not sure if im decided yet. Any reads on the two villans (you should have some by this stage)?

Very dependent on Wolfies range here, lawmaker donk range here is massive (may well be atc). I call if he is anyhwere near loose, or good enough to know that lawmaker donk range is massive and has a read that your overcalling range is quite small.

I think i might call here in a vacuum, we are getting alot more that 2 to 1 on our money if we win. We then have the chiplead on the bubble and can dominate the sng from here on in, as in $109 most people will have some icm understanding and therefore will not call us light on the bubble. This is a good example of taking a slight -ev situation which leads to massive equity gains in future hands.
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