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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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I think that rewarding a Football Manager for failing, by paying up his contract, stinks. Why reward failure?
I rarely feel sympathy for them when they get the tin tack, what sort of deal is is to be told to go home, & take a few mill with you because you messed up? It's bizarre.
But it must be dreadful to be in Avram Grant's shoes. His job is openly being hawked around, & he comes to work every day expecting the sack. How can a man give of his best in such circumstances? He must be praying for the sack, & the windfall that goes with it. Sullivan & Gold's people skills really are "interesting".
To top it all, both sets of supporters at Saturday's game with Arsenal mocked him. Football managers may well be overpaid, but how can you put a price on that? Whatever the pay, or the payoff, that takes some heart not to buckle when 30,000 knobs (none of whom would last a moment in the job, & have never tried it) are calling for you to be sacked, & your Directors are interviewing other Managers.
He's becoming almost a hero to me.
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Quote from: The Camel on January 19, 2011, 01:40:58 AM
Simple.
Turn your phone off when driving.
Did you see my thread on Billy Walters Tony?
I already Posted on it - fantastic!
Turn the 'phone off? Hmm, yes, simple. But I'm addicted to my 'phone, & to the internet, as bad as bad can be. They control my life, 18/7, & I wish it were not so. But they do.
It's an addiction I am aware of, & am desperate to cure, but I'm not doing so good. I wish I could solve it as easily as I can lose weight. Or even put it back on.
Am I the only one so addicted to the internet, & mobile phones?
Xty years ago my phone use was restricted to red telephone boxes. Now I'm hooked. That's progress. Of sorts.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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January 19, 2011, 02:22:24 AM »
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:37:01 AM
Quote from: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 01:22:22 AM
According to Charlie or Ruffy or someone else off Road Wars, using the phone hands free while driving is not much better, if any, than holding a mobile to your ear. You're still focussed on the conversation either way.
I spend most of my life on the phone and always pull into a layby if someone calls while I'm driving.
I'm starting to get a bit like that. I have a weekly business call which lasts 2 hours, & if driving, I have to pull up, I just can't concentrate enough on both.
Proper old fuddy-duddy me, these days.
I've had a 6 month speeding ban, & been fined for improper mobile phone use whilst driving. Both times it hurt, & the lesson has been taken on board. I wish the traffic laws were more strictly enforced, once you've been "done" you realise how stupid it is to flout the death of yourself, &, more importantly, others.
For me, every driving ban has a positive effect. I hated my driving ban, my legs, & my freedom & independence had been taken away, as well as my ability to work properly, (it was 6 or 7 years back), & I felt it was undeserved. But it did the trick.
Talking on the phone has a similar impact at any age. The theory being that in car conversation is OK because the other person can see what's going on and will be quiet when something requiring attention comes up etc.
Your thoughts on flouting the law reminded me of Crash (which I'm guessing you haven't read as it's fiction) which had a premise that we are all willing participants in our own car crashes and it's why we take so many risks everytime we drive (from not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone, breaking law to poor maintenance).
Here's a BBC short film about it:
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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January 19, 2011, 02:41:16 AM »
Actually it seems part 1 doesn't touch on that at all, but part 2 does:
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:47:18 AM
I think that rewarding a Football Manager for failing, by paying up his contract, stinks. Why reward failure?
I rarely feel sympathy for them when they get the tin tack, what sort of deal is is to be told to go home, & take a few mill with you because you messed up? It's bizarre.
But it must be dreadful to be in Avram Grant's shoes. His job is openly being hawked around, & he comes to work every day expecting the sack. How can a man give of his best in such circumstances? He must be praying for the sack, & the windfall that goes with it. Sullivan & Gold's people skills really are "interesting".
To top it all, both sets of supporters at Saturday's game with Arsenal mocked him. Football managers may well be overpaid, but how can you put a price on that? Whatever the pay, or the payoff, that takes some heart not to buckle when 30,000 knobs (none of whom would last a moment in the job, & have never tried it) are calling for you to be sacked, & your Directors are interviewing other Managers.
He's becoming almost a hero to me.
He's a lovely bloke as well which makes it even more ridiculous. I reckon more managers could do with showing the dignity that Avram has shown over the past few years.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #20735 on:
January 19, 2011, 10:12:26 AM »
Quote from: boldie on January 19, 2011, 07:25:46 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:47:18 AM
I think that rewarding a Football Manager for failing, by paying up his contract, stinks. Why reward failure?
I rarely feel sympathy for them when they get the tin tack, what sort of deal is is to be told to go home, & take a few mill with you because you messed up? It's bizarre.
But it must be dreadful to be in Avram Grant's shoes. His job is openly being hawked around, & he comes to work every day expecting the sack. How can a man give of his best in such circumstances? He must be praying for the sack, & the windfall that goes with it. Sullivan & Gold's people skills really are "interesting".
To top it all, both sets of supporters at Saturday's game with Arsenal mocked him. Football managers may well be overpaid, but how can you put a price on that? Whatever the pay, or the payoff, that takes some heart not to buckle when 30,000 knobs (none of whom would last a moment in the job, & have never tried it) are calling for you to be sacked, & your Directors are interviewing other Managers.
He's becoming almost a hero to me.
He's a lovely bloke as well which makes it even more ridiculous. I reckon more managers could do with showing the dignity that Avram has shown over the past few years.
When you think of the adversity he has faced, & the indignities he has suffered, at Portsmouth, & then West Ham, he must be some strong bloke, notwithstanding his Managerial abilities.
At Chelsea, he was but a bungled penalty-kick away from winning the Champions League in Moscow, of all places, for which his Chairman would have gaven anything to win. That must have made the eyes water a tad, too. He was Manager of the Month during his brief but very successful tenure at Chelsea (admittedly with an inherited squad), so he must have some ability. Now, he's a hopeless idiot, not fit to manage West Ham. It must true, the fans all sung it, & they know everything.
At some stage, between now & the Summer, he'll be canned, & I hope, in this case, he walks away with a bob or two. It's remarkable & very unusual to see a man with such heart, dignity, & backbone, in top-flight Football.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #20736 on:
January 19, 2011, 10:14:09 AM »
Quote from: Bongo on January 19, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:37:01 AM
Quote from: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 01:22:22 AM
According to Charlie or Ruffy or someone else off Road Wars, using the phone hands free while driving is not much better, if any, than holding a mobile to your ear. You're still focussed on the conversation either way.
I spend most of my life on the phone and always pull into a layby if someone calls while I'm driving.
I'm starting to get a bit like that. I have a weekly business call which lasts 2 hours, & if driving, I have to pull up, I just can't concentrate enough on both.
Proper old fuddy-duddy me, these days.
I've had a 6 month speeding ban, & been fined for improper mobile phone use whilst driving. Both times it hurt, & the lesson has been taken on board. I wish the traffic laws were more strictly enforced, once you've been "done" you realise how stupid it is to flout the death of yourself, &, more importantly, others.
For me, every driving ban has a positive effect. I hated my driving ban, my legs, & my freedom & independence had been taken away, as well as my ability to work properly, (it was 6 or 7 years back), & I felt it was undeserved. But it did the trick.
Talking on the phone has a similar impact at any age. The theory being that in car conversation is OK because the other person can see what's going on and will be quiet when something requiring attention comes up etc.
Your thoughts on flouting the law reminded me of Crash (which I'm guessing you haven't read as it's fiction) which had a premise that we are all willing participants in our own car crashes and it's why we take so many risks everytime we drive (from not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone, breaking law to poor maintenance).
Here's a BBC short film about it:
I never once wore a seat-belt until 3 years ago, but one day, I suddenly realised the stupidity of that. It was a negative freeroll.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #20737 on:
January 19, 2011, 10:17:56 AM »
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Bongo on January 19, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:37:01 AM
Quote from: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 01:22:22 AM
According to Charlie or Ruffy or someone else off Road Wars, using the phone hands free while driving is not much better, if any, than holding a mobile to your ear. You're still focussed on the conversation either way.
I spend most of my life on the phone and always pull into a layby if someone calls while I'm driving.
I'm starting to get a bit like that. I have a weekly business call which lasts 2 hours, & if driving, I have to pull up, I just can't concentrate enough on both.
Proper old fuddy-duddy me, these days.
I've had a 6 month speeding ban, & been fined for improper mobile phone use whilst driving. Both times it hurt, & the lesson has been taken on board. I wish the traffic laws were more strictly enforced, once you've been "done" you realise how stupid it is to flout the death of yourself, &, more importantly, others.
For me, every driving ban has a positive effect. I hated my driving ban, my legs, & my freedom & independence had been taken away, as well as my ability to work properly, (it was 6 or 7 years back), & I felt it was undeserved. But it did the trick.
Talking on the phone has a similar impact at any age. The theory being that in car conversation is OK because the other person can see what's going on and will be quiet when something requiring attention comes up etc.
Your thoughts on flouting the law reminded me of Crash (which I'm guessing you haven't read as it's fiction) which had a premise that we are all willing participants in our own car crashes and it's why we take so many risks everytime we drive (from not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone, breaking law to poor maintenance).
Here's a BBC short film about it:
I never once wore a seat-belt until 3 years ago, but one day, I suddenly realised the stupidity of that. It was a negative freeroll.
Sorry? That is unbelievable?
What was the thinking behind that?
You are probably one of the most law abiding people I know, I find your admission incredible. Please explain!
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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January 19, 2011, 10:29:01 AM »
Quote from: Dingdell on January 19, 2011, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Bongo on January 19, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:37:01 AM
Quote from: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 01:22:22 AM
According to Charlie or Ruffy or someone else off Road Wars, using the phone hands free while driving is not much better, if any, than holding a mobile to your ear. You're still focussed on the conversation either way.
I spend most of my life on the phone and always pull into a layby if someone calls while I'm driving.
I'm starting to get a bit like that. I have a weekly business call which lasts 2 hours, & if driving, I have to pull up, I just can't concentrate enough on both.
Proper old fuddy-duddy me, these days.
I've had a 6 month speeding ban, & been fined for improper mobile phone use whilst driving. Both times it hurt, & the lesson has been taken on board. I wish the traffic laws were more strictly enforced, once you've been "done" you realise how stupid it is to flout the death of yourself, &, more importantly, others.
For me, every driving ban has a positive effect. I hated my driving ban, my legs, & my freedom & independence had been taken away, as well as my ability to work properly, (it was 6 or 7 years back), & I felt it was undeserved. But it did the trick.
Talking on the phone has a similar impact at any age. The theory being that in car conversation is OK because the other person can see what's going on and will be quiet when something requiring attention comes up etc.
Your thoughts on flouting the law reminded me of Crash (which I'm guessing you haven't read as it's fiction) which had a premise that we are all willing participants in our own car crashes and it's why we take so many risks everytime we drive (from not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone, breaking law to poor maintenance).
Here's a BBC short film about it:
I never once wore a seat-belt until 3 years ago, but one day, I suddenly realised the stupidity of that. It was a negative freeroll.
Sorry? That is unbelievable?
What was the thinking behind that?
You are probably one of the most law abiding people I know, I find your admission incredible. Please explain!
Stubborn-ness, stupidity, all those things were part of it. I felt uncomfortable wearting a seat-belt, too, it sort of sat uncomfortably on my shoulder. How terrible, "uncomfortable"......
Also, a burning resentment & objection to the notion that the Government knew better than me, & had the right to force me to do a "daft" thing". I think that was just typical adolescent anti-authority behaviour really, there was no good rational reason. Now I'm post adolescent, I view it differently.
Amazing how, as you progress in life, you sort of suddenly see things in a different light, & have to accept you had it all wrong previously. It's one of the ironies of ageing, to see things more clearly, whilst the eyesight is getting rapidly worse.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #20739 on:
January 19, 2011, 10:31:36 AM »
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: Dingdell on January 19, 2011, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Bongo on January 19, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:37:01 AM
Quote from: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 01:22:22 AM
According to Charlie or Ruffy or someone else off Road Wars, using the phone hands free while driving is not much better, if any, than holding a mobile to your ear. You're still focussed on the conversation either way.
I spend most of my life on the phone and always pull into a layby if someone calls while I'm driving.
I'm starting to get a bit like that. I have a weekly business call which lasts 2 hours, & if driving, I have to pull up, I just can't concentrate enough on both.
Proper old fuddy-duddy me, these days.
I've had a 6 month speeding ban, & been fined for improper mobile phone use whilst driving. Both times it hurt, & the lesson has been taken on board. I wish the traffic laws were more strictly enforced, once you've been "done" you realise how stupid it is to flout the death of yourself, &, more importantly, others.
For me, every driving ban has a positive effect. I hated my driving ban, my legs, & my freedom & independence had been taken away, as well as my ability to work properly, (it was 6 or 7 years back), & I felt it was undeserved. But it did the trick.
Talking on the phone has a similar impact at any age. The theory being that in car conversation is OK because the other person can see what's going on and will be quiet when something requiring attention comes up etc.
Your thoughts on flouting the law reminded me of Crash (which I'm guessing you haven't read as it's fiction) which had a premise that we are all willing participants in our own car crashes and it's why we take so many risks everytime we drive (from not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone, breaking law to poor maintenance).
Here's a BBC short film about it:
I never once wore a seat-belt until 3 years ago, but one day, I suddenly realised the stupidity of that. It was a negative freeroll.
Sorry? That is unbelievable?
What was the thinking behind that?
You are probably one of the most law abiding people I know, I find your admission incredible. Please explain!
Stubborn-ness, stupidity, all those things were part of it. I felt uncomfortable wearting a seat-belt, too, it sort of sat uncomfortably on my shoulder. How terrible, "uncomfortable"......
Also, a burning resentment & objection to the notion that the Government knew better than me, & had the right to force me to do a "daft" thing". I think that was just typical adolescent anti-authority behaviour really, there was no good rational reason.
Now I'm post adolescent
, I view it differently.
Amazing how, as you progress in life, you sort of suddenly see things in a different light, & have to accept you had it all wrong previously. It's one of the ironies of ageing, to see things more clearly, whilst the eyesight is getting rapidly worse.
Looking forward to see how you cope with middle age when it eventually arrives. Jeeze.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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January 19, 2011, 10:36:42 AM »
Quote from: Dingdell on January 19, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: Dingdell on January 19, 2011, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Bongo on January 19, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:37:01 AM
Quote from: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 01:22:22 AM
According to Charlie or Ruffy or someone else off Road Wars, using the phone hands free while driving is not much better, if any, than holding a mobile to your ear. You're still focussed on the conversation either way.
I spend most of my life on the phone and always pull into a layby if someone calls while I'm driving.
I'm starting to get a bit like that. I have a weekly business call which lasts 2 hours, & if driving, I have to pull up, I just can't concentrate enough on both.
Proper old fuddy-duddy me, these days.
I've had a 6 month speeding ban, & been fined for improper mobile phone use whilst driving. Both times it hurt, & the lesson has been taken on board. I wish the traffic laws were more strictly enforced, once you've been "done" you realise how stupid it is to flout the death of yourself, &, more importantly, others.
For me, every driving ban has a positive effect. I hated my driving ban, my legs, & my freedom & independence had been taken away, as well as my ability to work properly, (it was 6 or 7 years back), & I felt it was undeserved. But it did the trick.
Talking on the phone has a similar impact at any age. The theory being that in car conversation is OK because the other person can see what's going on and will be quiet when something requiring attention comes up etc.
Your thoughts on flouting the law reminded me of Crash (which I'm guessing you haven't read as it's fiction) which had a premise that we are all willing participants in our own car crashes and it's why we take so many risks everytime we drive (from not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone, breaking law to poor maintenance).
Here's a BBC short film about it:
I never once wore a seat-belt until 3 years ago, but one day, I suddenly realised the stupidity of that. It was a negative freeroll.
Sorry? That is unbelievable?
What was the thinking behind that?
You are probably one of the most law abiding people I know, I find your admission incredible. Please explain!
Stubborn-ness, stupidity, all those things were part of it. I felt uncomfortable wearting a seat-belt, too, it sort of sat uncomfortably on my shoulder. How terrible, "uncomfortable"......
Also, a burning resentment & objection to the notion that the Government knew better than me, & had the right to force me to do a "daft" thing". I think that was just typical adolescent anti-authority behaviour really, there was no good rational reason.
Now I'm post adolescent
, I view it differently.
Amazing how, as you progress in life, you sort of suddenly see things in a different light, & have to accept you had it all wrong previously. It's one of the ironies of ageing, to see things more clearly, whilst the eyesight is getting rapidly worse.
Looking forward to see how you cope with middle age when it eventually arrives. Jeeze.
Technically, I AM "post-adolescent".
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January 19, 2011, 11:06:14 AM »
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Bongo on January 19, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: tikay on January 19, 2011, 01:37:01 AM
Quote from: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 01:22:22 AM
According to Charlie or Ruffy or someone else off Road Wars, using the phone hands free while driving is not much better, if any, than holding a mobile to your ear. You're still focussed on the conversation either way.
I spend most of my life on the phone and always pull into a layby if someone calls while I'm driving.
I'm starting to get a bit like that. I have a weekly business call which lasts 2 hours, & if driving, I have to pull up, I just can't concentrate enough on both.
Proper old fuddy-duddy me, these days.
I've had a 6 month speeding ban, & been fined for improper mobile phone use whilst driving. Both times it hurt, & the lesson has been taken on board. I wish the traffic laws were more strictly enforced, once you've been "done" you realise how stupid it is to flout the death of yourself, &, more importantly, others.
For me, every driving ban has a positive effect. I hated my driving ban, my legs, & my freedom & independence had been taken away, as well as my ability to work properly, (it was 6 or 7 years back), & I felt it was undeserved. But it did the trick.
Talking on the phone has a similar impact at any age. The theory being that in car conversation is OK because the other person can see what's going on and will be quiet when something requiring attention comes up etc.
Your thoughts on flouting the law reminded me of Crash (which I'm guessing you haven't read as it's fiction) which had a premise that we are all willing participants in our own car crashes and it's why we take so many risks everytime we drive (from not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone, breaking law to poor maintenance).
Here's a BBC short film about it:
I never once wore a seat-belt until 3 years ago, but one day, I suddenly realised the stupidity of that. It was a negative freeroll.
You don't need to wear a seat-belt if you're driving below 70mph.
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January 19, 2011, 11:27:44 AM »
Quote from: kinboshi on January 19, 2011, 11:06:14 AM
You don't need to wear a seat-belt if you're driving below 70mph.
Don't need to wear one when you're crashing into an oncoming car at something like 70 MPH either, it's not gonna help
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Quote from: Dingdell on January 19, 2011, 10:17:56 AM
[Not wearing a seat belt] Sorry? That is unbelievable?
What was the thinking behind that?
Not wearing one is probably safer than wearing one - Google risk homeostasis.
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Quote from: boldie on January 19, 2011, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on January 19, 2011, 11:06:14 AM
You don't need to wear a seat-belt if you're driving below 70mph.
Don't need to wear one when you're crashing into an oncoming car at something like 70 MPH either, it's not gonna help
Oncoming cars on the motorway are rare - fortunately.
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