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« Reply #29940 on: August 25, 2012, 07:41:15 PM »


Great photo!

More "Family at work" stuff itt please.

Any advance on a winkle picker maker?
My wife's an Embalmer. Would you like a photo of her at work?Huh?Huh?Huh???
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« Reply #29941 on: August 25, 2012, 07:42:47 PM »


Great photo!

More "Family at work" stuff itt please.

Any advance on a winkle picker maker?
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I'm dying to.
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« Reply #29942 on: August 25, 2012, 07:50:29 PM »

I showed this video to my Dad this afternoon and he was so pleased about it and a few stories came out.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/winklepickers/query/PM0109

It was this shop which started the winkle picker craze after a man came in and asked for a pair of shoes to be made with a pointed tip and the rest is history and they were making in excess of 300 pairs a week.

The shop belonged to my Dads cousin, Stan Bartholomew, and in the video are my Dads uncle, another cousin who are all unfortunately dead now. Well it was 52 years ago.

The jumper my Dad's wearing was a gift from an old girlfriend of his whos father was non other than Mr. Reuter, as in the news agency. The shop featured in all the latest fashion mags and a few news programs with the most prominent one being a feature on Cliff Mitchelmores Tonight program. I'm trying to find this at the moment.

They upset Alan Whicker when a pair of shoes he ordered were not ready on time and he never returned again. Some people are so touchy.lol
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« Reply #29943 on: August 25, 2012, 07:55:15 PM »


That's great Tom, what year would that have been?
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« Reply #29944 on: August 25, 2012, 07:57:51 PM »



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« Reply #29945 on: August 25, 2012, 08:00:31 PM »


That's great Tom, what year would that have been?


~ 1958. (About 5/6 years before I joined the family business).
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« Reply #29946 on: August 25, 2012, 08:01:27 PM »


Great photo!

More "Family at work" stuff itt please.

Any advance on a winkle picker maker?

I must confess to being a bit jealous when you find those old photos and articles about your dad Tony as I have searched in vain for any mention of my old boy although he too had his moments as they say.

My dad played table-tennis to a very high standard as I'm sure that I've told you a few times, he was an England international between the wars during the 1930's and was a team-mate of Fred Perry who was not only Wimbledon lawn-tennis champion but also simultaneously the England #1 at table-tennis which is pretty amazing.

Table-tennis was a huge sport at that time and was dominated by the Hungarians and particularly by one man, Victor Barna who was virtually in a class of his own and won the world championship many times. Those world championships were held in London in 1935 and my dad managed to make it into the quarter-finals that year where he ran into Barna who knocked him out in straight games.

My dad was actually using an autographed "Barna bat" for that match which he gave to me but I must have bragged about it too much at school and some bugger stole it.

Anyhow that's enough digression; the point is that despite my best efforts I can find no record of that 1935 world championships apart from the winners of all of the events and there is no mention of my dad or any pictures although I do have one here which I suspect is most of those guys as I'm sure one of them is Barna who I met once when I was in short trousers.

My dad was Harry Shalson but he had a cousin of exactly the same name and a very similar age who was a fairly well known singer at that time and he is the one who comes up on any simple searches via google. I have no idea how to make any further searches as my techno-skills are somewhat limited but would be overjoyed if anyone could shed any further light on the subject.
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« Reply #29947 on: August 25, 2012, 08:17:47 PM »


Great photo!

More "Family at work" stuff itt please.

Any advance on a winkle picker maker?

I must confess to being a bit jealous when you find those old photos and articles about your dad Tony as I have searched in vain for any mention of my old boy although he too had his moments as they say.

My dad played table-tennis to a very high standard as I'm sure that I've told you a few times, he was an England international between the wars during the 1930's and was a team-mate of Fred Perry who was not only Wimbledon lawn-tennis champion but also simultaneously the England #1 at table-tennis which is pretty amazing.

Table-tennis was a huge sport at that time and was dominated by the Hungarians and particularly by one man, Victor Barna who was virtually in a class of his own and won the world championship many times. Those world championships were held in London in 1935 and my dad managed to make it into the quarter-finals that year where he ran into Barna who knocked him out in straight games.

My dad was actually using an autographed "Barna bat" for that match which he gave to me but I must have bragged about it too much at school and some bugger stole it.

Anyhow that's enough digression; the point is that despite my best efforts I can find no record of that 1935 world championships apart from the winners of all of the events and there is no mention of my dad or any pictures although I do have one here which I suspect is most of those guys as I'm sure one of them is Barna who I met once when I was in short trousers.

My dad was Harry Shalson but he had a cousin of exactly the same name and a very similar age who was a fairly well known singer at that time and he is the one who comes up on any simple searches via google. I have no idea how to make any further searches as my techno-skills are somewhat limited but would be overjoyed if anyone could shed any further light on the subject.

That is an incredible Post, Ralph.

I hope my friend hector62 might come up with something, as he did for me yesterday.

Little tale.

I mentioned my Dad on the Tips for tikay thread, I can't recall the context, but I said I'd give a free £25 bet to anyone who could find that video.

Anyway, hector found it, & I was made up.

So, I wrote to him & doubled the "reward", to a £50 free bet, by way of some sort of tangible "thank you".

He refused to accept a penny, he said he believed in karma, & that karma would look after him.

He then - this was last night - won an Omaha Hi-Lo Tourney last night, from over 600 runners!

And today, he came up with THE weirdest bet - a particular player to be, in effect, Man of the Match in the RL Challenge Cup Final. And he nailed that, too!

I'm pretty sure karma is in the mind, but you never know......
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« Reply #29948 on: August 25, 2012, 08:53:46 PM »

Ralph check this

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/international-table-tennis/query/Table

Its a clip from 1935
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« Reply #29949 on: August 25, 2012, 08:59:19 PM »


Good start - the chap at around 57 seconds has the right hair!
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« Reply #29950 on: August 25, 2012, 09:11:39 PM »


That's fantastic!

I'm pretty sure the smaller guy on the right of what I assume to be the men's final is Barna.

My dad was six feet tall and with the fashionable brylcreem look.

It was interesting to see even that brief glimpse of their play as dad mentioned that he had modelled his tactics on those of Barna's using almost entirely a  backhand game except when there was an opportunity of the forehand smash for a winner which seemed to be the style there.
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« Reply #29951 on: August 25, 2012, 09:59:57 PM »


That's fantastic!

I'm pretty sure the smaller guy on the right of what I assume to be the men's final is Barna.

My dad was six feet tall and with the fashionable brylcreem look.

It was interesting to see even that brief glimpse of their play as dad mentioned that he had modelled his tactics on those of Barna's using almost entirely a  backhand game except when there was an opportunity of the forehand smash for a winner which seemed to be the style there.

It's likely a printed programme was published for this 1935 event.

I'll be in London in a week or so, where I know a guy who deals in sports programmes. I'll see what I can find out.

Also check this

http://www.ittf.com/museum/ttc53.pdf

There are some old photos on here.
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« Reply #29952 on: August 25, 2012, 10:10:33 PM »

I came across the same site as Tonjii and it has the results from the 1935 world championships on it. It doesn't actually mention Harry Shaslon as reaching the last 16.

http://www.ittf.com/museum/results/WorldChresults.html
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« Reply #29953 on: August 25, 2012, 10:12:17 PM »

He is in the doubles though!
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« Reply #29954 on: August 25, 2012, 10:18:32 PM »


Yes, 1935 Doubles!

 
http://www.ittf.com/museum/WorldChResultsMD.pdf


Silto / Shalson (ENG)
Silto / Shalson (ENG)
Baglow / Wynne (WAL)
3-1
Bellak / Kelen
Bellak / Kelen (HUN)
17, 15, 14
Bellak / Kelen (HUN)
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