Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[DMorgan]

Sentencing looks like it'll be an interesting conundrum since it would appear that he doesn't pose any immediate danger to the public and if he goes to prison at 83 he'll most likely be there until he is too unwell to remain there?

[Chili]

You're going Vegas Tikay, that's all there is to it!

[kinboshi]

Sentencing looks like it'll be an interesting conundrum since it would appear that he doesn't pose any immediate danger to the public and if he goes to prison at 83 he'll most likely be there until he is too unwell to remain there?

Punishment and deterrent, as well as trying to protect others from abuse in the future from others (by encouraging victims to come forward confident that they will be taken seriously and the police will follow up on what is being reported to them).

[kinboshi]

I'm sure most will think "wtf"?, but these things play on my mind.

The BBC - Lord Reith's very own - were reporting on a matter connected to Warwickshire Police this morning, it was on Radio 4.

The announcer peep person said this....

".....Warwickshire Police has issued a statement......"

"have", surely?

That's one that's slowly slipping into British English.  It's an Americanism, and I'm glad it provokes umbrage (thought it was just me it annoyed).

I'd say "Liverpool are the greatest football team."
An American would say "Liverpool is the greatest football team."
Most people would say "not at the moment they aren't."

[Tal]

A friend of mine has a reasonably senior post in a well-known organisation. I sent him the link about the Stuart Hall news. His response, which I copy below, would be (were it not for the gravity of the subject matter) the funniest text I've received for a long time. I genuinely did a laugh out loud and disturbed some poor souls who were trying to work.


If he is concerned about notoriety and disgrace when I mentioned his name in a meeting of 8 under 25's today only 2 thought they'd ever heard of him and one of them thought he was Shane Warne!!


Spring onions galore for that.



As for the singular noun dilemma, it is one of those where I think it is silly to pick others up on it (unless they were purporting, incorrectly, to be right).

Off the top of my head, Fowler was happy with treating a group of individuals as being either a singular or plural noun and, thus, so ought we all.

If Martin Tyler declared "Liverpool is on the attack!", there would be journalists the nation over ducking under their desks and the people of Manchester would be frantically battening down the hatches.

My own approach (FWIW) is to say:

Liverpool are a good side (indirect reference to the players = plural)

Liverpool needs to react quickly to the Suarez bite (reference to the club as a single entity = singular)

Police follows the same logic: if we are talking about the organisation as a whole, that is a singular; if we are really talking about the force as a group of individuals, plural.

Whilst it is arguably technically incorrect, it works for me and I wouldn't cut someone up for doing it differently.

[pokerfan]

@Tal.

Liverpool needs...

When do we use needs or need ?.

Need works there right ?

[tikay]

@Tal.

Liverpool needs...

When do we use needs or need ?.

Need works there right ?

Correct!

[tikay]

Spurs Bloke:

The has or have thing.

 THIS man is not one bit impressed with you.

[JamesHartigan]

I'm sure most will think "wtf"?, but these things play on my mind.

The BBC - Lord Reith's very own - were reporting on a matter connected to Warwickshire Police this morning, it was on Radio 4.

The announcer peep person said this....

".....Warwickshire Police has issued a statement......"

"have", surely?

The BBC newsreader was correct.

He/she is referring to Warwickshire Police Force.  This is an organisation, and the BBC's editorial guidelines state that organisations and companies should be referred to in the singular tense.

It is not 'American English'.

[JamesHartigan]

During my days as a London radio news anchor, I used to work for a rather dictatorial editor.

If anyone was caught writing/announcing, "The Metropolitan Police have..." they would suffer a torrent of abuse. This would always contain foul language. Sometimes it would contain threats. And it was often followed by a firing!

[RED-DOG]

@Tal.

Liverpool needs...

When do we use needs or need ?.

Need works there right ?

What about Leeds?

[tikay]

I'm sure most will think "wtf"?, but these things play on my mind.

The BBC - Lord Reith's very own - were reporting on a matter connected to Warwickshire Police this morning, it was on Radio 4.

The announcer peep person said this....

".....Warwickshire Police has issued a statement......"

"have", surely?

The BBC newsreader was correct.

He/she is referring to Warwickshire Police Force.  This is an organisation, and the BBC's editorial guidelines state that organisations and companies should be referred to in the singular tense.

It is not 'American English'.

Aye up, Hartigan, film bore & top top poker commentator bloke, in the thread.

You have been told.

[tikay]

During my days as a London radio news anchor, I used to work for a rather dictatorial editor.

If anyone was caught writing/announcing, "The Metropolitan Police have..." they would suffer a torrent of abuse. This would always contain foul language. Sometimes it would contain threats. And it was often followed by a firing!

Best poker tournament you have ever commentated upon?

Best poker player you have ever seen? (For the purposes of this, don't include me please).

[Tal]

I'm sure most will think "wtf"?, but these things play on my mind.

The BBC - Lord Reith's very own - were reporting on a matter connected to Warwickshire Police this morning, it was on Radio 4.

The announcer peep person said this....

".....Warwickshire Police has issued a statement......"

"have", surely?

The BBC newsreader was correct.

He/she is referring to Warwickshire Police Force.  This is an organisation, and the BBC's editorial guidelines state that organisations and companies should be referred to in the singular tense.

It is not 'American English'.

Exactly this.

The point of saying 'Liverpool needs' in my example is because I am referring to the club (if you will, the company) which is a single entity and, therefore, should take the singular conjugation.

On pokerfan's comment, this is my point. We can take it far too seriously when we all know what we mean. Need is fine.

Must dash. Off to the gym. Will wilfully indulge later.

[Karabiner]

BOOM

Scaled a meagre 12st1lb. after today's golf which is a 5lbs. loss since I started playing again just over two weeks ago, you really should try it.

Shot a slightly rusty 87 though.