Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[tikay]

When Doobs said he was in the Trossachs, I wanted to write that I was jealous.

But is that the right word, or should it be envious?

So I checked.

Jealous......

Jealous means "apprehensive or vengeful out of fear of being replaced by someone else." It can also mean "watchful, " "anxiously suspicious, " "zealous, " or "expecting complete devotion." The last is normally applied to God.

As in....

I am jealous that you like him over me.

Easy way to remember....

Jealousy is the emotion when you fear you may be replaced in the affection of someone you love or desire.

Well it is NOT that, is it?

Envious, then?

Envy means "to bear a grudge toward someone due to coveting what that person has or enjoys." In a milder sense, it means "the longing for something someone else has without any ill will intended toward that person."

But those two descriptions of "Envy" are completely different things, surely? I deffo don't bear him a grudge, but I do have a longing to be where he is.

So what is the correct word? Doobs is in the Trossachs. I wish I was. So the correct word should be.....?

Sort it out, Tal Bloke.

[Tal]

So what which is the correct word? Doobs is in the Trossachs. I wish I was were. So the correct word should be.....?

Sort it out, Tal Bloke.

Just had a look in my little Oxford. Jealous is defined firstly as solicitous for, which is exactly what you mean.

Broadly speaking, envious is a better fit: Doobs is doobing about in the Trossachs. I envy him. It is that feeling of wistful, admiring contemplation.

There really is no problem with choosing either. Personally, I would say either:

Doobs is doobing about in the Trossachs. I am sooooo jealous.

Or

Doobs is doobing about in the Trossachs. I dow 'alf envy him.

[tikay]

[i]So what which is the correct word? Doobs is in the Trossachs. I wish I was were. So the correct word should be.....?

Sort it out, Tal Bloke[/i].

Just had a look in my little Oxford. Jealous is defined firstly as solicitous for, which is exactly what you mean.

Broadly speaking, envious is a better fit: Doobs is doobing about in the Trossachs. I envy him. It is that feeling of wistful, admiring contemplation.

There really is no problem with choosing either. Personally, I would say either:

Doobs is doobing about in the Trossachs. I am sooooo jealous.

Or

Doobs is doobing about in the Trossachs. I dow 'alf envy him.

Whoops. Noted.

I liked solicitious, but that has completely the wrong meaning.

PS - We have all heard of the OED, but is there a CED?

[Tal]

There is

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

But no hesitation that the OED is the nut dictionary.

There is also both an Oxford University Press and a CUP. While I think of it, the difference between an abbreviation and an acronym is that you pronounce an acronym as a word: NATO, RADAR, BOGOF, etc.

[tikay]

There is

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

But no hesitation that the OED is the nut dictionary.

There is also both an Oxford University Press and a CUP. While I think of it, the difference between an abbreviation and an acronym is that you pronounce an acronym as a word: NATO, RADAR, BOGOF, etc.

Ooh, LIKE that.

Why do both Oxford & Cambridge Universities have a "Press", which I assume to be a printing facility? Do other Uni's have them?

And do the American Universities have their own version of OED etc?

Minnesota American Dictionary would be an acronym, right?

[Tal]

I would think every uni has one, if only for the purposes of publishing their students' PhD theses or other university publications.

The OUP is the largest in the world.

The American dictionary would be Webster's. His first version was in the early 19th Century.

[Tal]

http://www.hup.harvard.edu/features/dare/

Here is the Harvard Dictionary of American Regional English from the Harvard University Press.

It is acronymised as DARE.

[Tal]

If Edge Hill University in Ormskirk has a press, it would be

EH UP!

[tikay]

I would think every uni has one, if only for the purposes of publishing their students' PhD theses or other university publications.

The OUP is the largest in the world.

The American dictionary would be Webster's. His first version was in the early 19th Century.

If this really is their office, (is it?) it is a proper posh building, that. Bet you have to take your shoes off & everything when you enter. Must have a posh canteen, too. 

Click to see full-size image.

[Tal]

The Bodleian in Oxford is one of the oldest libararies in the world. But check this out from Wiki on the better place:

Cambridge University has 114 libraries. Cambridge University Library, referred to within the University as "the University Library" or just "the UL", is the central research library, which holds over 8 million items (including maps and sheet music) and, in contrast with the Bodleian or the British Library, many of its books are available on open shelves. It is one of the three legal deposit university libraries in England, therefore it is entitled to request a free copy of every book published in the UK and Ireland. It receives around 80,000 books every year, not counting the donated books. In addition to the University Library and its dependent libraries, every faculty has a specialised library, which, on average, holds from 30,000 to 150,000 books; for example the History Faculty's Seeley Historical Library possess more than 100,000 books. Also, every college has a library as well, partially for the purposes of undergraduate teaching, and the older colleges often possess many early books and manuscripts in a separate library. For example Trinity College's Wren Library has more than 200,000 books printed before 1800, while the Parker Library, Corpus Christi College, possesses one of the greatest early medieval European manuscript collections in the World, with over 600 manuscripts. The total number of books owned by the university is about 15 million.

[Karabiner]

There is

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

But no hesitation that the OED is the nut dictionary.

There is also both an Oxford University Press and a CUP. While I think of it, the difference between an abbreviation and an acronym is that you pronounce an acronym as a word: NATO, RADAR, BOGOF, etc.

I quite like my Chambers 21st Century dictionary.

How it would be rated by dictionary afficionados Tal?

[tikay]

The Bodleian in Oxford is one of the oldest libararies in the world. But check this out from Wiki on the better place:

Cambridge University has 114 libraries. Cambridge University Library, referred to within the University as "the University Library" or just "the UL", is the central research library, which holds over 8 million items (including maps and sheet music) and, in contrast with the Bodleian or the British Library, many of its books are available on open shelves. It is one of the three legal deposit university libraries in England, therefore it is entitled to request a free copy of every book published in the UK and Ireland. It receives around 80,000 books every year, not counting the donated books. In addition to the University Library and its dependent libraries, every faculty has a specialised library, which, on average, holds from 30,000 to 150,000 books; for example the History Faculty's Seeley Historical Library possess more than 100,000 books. Also, every college has a library as well, partially for the purposes of undergraduate teaching, and the older colleges often possess many early books and manuscripts in a separate library. For example Trinity College's Wren Library has more than 200,000 books printed before 1800, while the Parker Library, Corpus Christi College, possesses one of the greatest early medieval European manuscript collections in the World, with over 600 manuscripts. The total number of books owned by the university is about 15 million.

Wowzer. Must have a few bookshelves then.

I searched "inside the OUP" & found this wonderful photo, under the heading  "Jericho, the Community at the heart of the OUP". Why "Jericho"?

[Tal]

The Bodleian in Oxford is one of the oldest libararies in the world. But check this out from Wiki on the better place:

Cambridge University has 114 libraries. Cambridge University Library, referred to within the University as "the University Library" or just "the UL", is the central research library, which holds over 8 million items (including maps and sheet music) and, in contrast with the Bodleian or the British Library, many of its books are available on open shelves. It is one of the three legal deposit university libraries in England, therefore it is entitled to request a free copy of every book published in the UK and Ireland. It receives around 80,000 books every year, not counting the donated books. In addition to the University Library and its dependent libraries, every faculty has a specialised library, which, on average, holds from 30,000 to 150,000 books; for example the History Faculty's Seeley Historical Library possess more than 100,000 books. Also, every college has a library as well, partially for the purposes of undergraduate teaching, and the older colleges often possess many early books and manuscripts in a separate library. For example Trinity College's Wren Library has more than 200,000 books printed before 1800, while the Parker Library, Corpus Christi College, possesses one of the greatest early medieval European manuscript collections in the World, with over 600 manuscripts. The total number of books owned by the university is about 15 million.

Wowzer. Must have a few bookshelves then.

I searched "inside the OUP" & found this wonderful photo, under the heading  "Jericho, the Community at the heart of the OUP". Why "Jericho"?

Jericho, I am told, is the area of Oxford that the current OUP is in. Nothing more flamboyant. No imagination

[Tal]

There is

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

But no hesitation that the OED is the nut dictionary.

There is also both an Oxford University Press and a CUP. While I think of it, the difference between an abbreviation and an acronym is that you pronounce an acronym as a word: NATO, RADAR, BOGOF, etc.

I quite like my Chambers 21st Century dictionary.

How it would be rated by dictionary afficionados Tal?

Well, it's fine with me. As long as it tells you what words mean, it can hardly be a bad'un. I've got a Chambers, too. Actually, on reflection, I have more dictionaries than I think is normal. No idea why I'm surprised by that.

[Machka]

I would think every uni has one, if only for the purposes of publishing their students' PhD theses or other university publications.

The OUP is the largest in the world.

The American dictionary would be Webster's. His first version was in the early 19th Century.

Did Webster just take the OED, copy it, and spell some stuff wrong?