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« Reply #38640 on: June 25, 2014, 11:39:53 PM »

ul tikay, cant pm yet so amazon orange 373 from 4pm today if u wanna catch up, failing that prob the cash game area.  Agree yesterday was the bigger of the value ones but the $3k isn't far behind as u prob know from last year.
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« Reply #38641 on: June 25, 2014, 11:46:28 PM »

ul tikay, cant pm yet so amazon orange 373 from 4pm today if u wanna catch up, failing that prob the cash game area.  Agree yesterday was the bigger of the value ones but the $3k isn't far behind as u prob know from last year.

Sorry, but I don't know who "animalpoker" is.

I'll have one guess though - do you come from Cornwall?

I bet you do.  Wink

Presumably you never cashed in the PLO8 either? (Assuming you are Lord Robert Price, serial WSOP Day Two-er in Daft Games).

Will pop down & see you later. I assume you are playing the 8 Game Mix, right?

What a great Tourney that WSOP PLO8 was. Wish I could play that every day. 
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« Reply #38642 on: June 26, 2014, 12:18:46 AM »

Robert price = animalpoker. If that helps?
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« Reply #38643 on: June 26, 2014, 12:25:38 AM »

Robert price = animalpoker. If that helps?

What on earth? How the hell do you know that?

I guessed Robert Price, but only because we chat every day, & his post "fitted".

He knows Doobs, too.

Cornwall Man of many talents.

So, how did you work that out?
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« Reply #38644 on: June 26, 2014, 12:31:21 AM »

Robert price = animalpoker. If that helps?

What on earth? How the hell do you know that?

I guessed Robert Price, but only because we chat every day, & his post "fitted".

He knows Doobs, too.

Cornwall Man of many talents.

So, how did you work that out?

Go look at his previous posts  Wink
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« Reply #38645 on: June 26, 2014, 12:35:37 AM »

Robert price = animalpoker. If that helps?

What on earth? How the hell do you know that?

I guessed Robert Price, but only because we chat every day, & his post "fitted".

He knows Doobs, too.

Cornwall Man of many talents.

So, how did you work that out?

Go look at his previous posts  Wink


Ahh, of course.

Rumbled.

Just found his Blog, too. Great read. 
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« Reply #38646 on: June 26, 2014, 12:55:06 AM »

Yes it's me rob , forgot u don't know my nickname as animal.  And yeh 8game , 3rd game is 25/25 NLH and the chips are flying in but not by me Smiley

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« Reply #38647 on: June 26, 2014, 01:22:43 AM »

Yo, you are fascinated by how the mind works?

Check it out...when you cringe with embarrassment seeing your name at the bottom who is making you feel that way?

Let me tell you it is impossible for anybody to MAKE you feel that way. Your reaction and your mindset to anything is entirely up to you. Entirely up to you. Even if people are laughing and pointing, which they aren't, nobody can force you to feel embarrassed. Those feelings originate from you and the reason they exist is because you place far far too much weight on what others might think of you. I have told you this about a thousand times.

So fascinate about this, how does making yourself feel this way help, how does it help you enjoy experiences more, how does it help you play better? How does it help in any which way?

So why not free yourself from that baggage? It is simple to do. Just give yourself a break and simply don't care as much. The truth is there are several roadmaps to win a tournament and going from shortstack to winner is as valid as any. And they all carry equal embarrassment rating. It is entirely up to you.

Anyway, a few years ago I went to watch a variety show with some friends. Jim Davidson is first up and it's a packed house. He starts by saying there's a raffle for a five star holiday to Barbados and all of us have a ticket under our seat. He reads out the winning number and low and behold it's my mate Andy who wins. He is ecstatic, he jumps up into the air, he double-fist pumps and lets out a big scream before running to the stage to get his prize. I check my ticket and it's the same number, all my friends have the same number, everybody in the whole theatre has the same number. Unfortunately it's too late to stop Andy who is bounding down the aisle and jumping up on stage.

"I've never won anything in my life Jim" he screams from the stage. The whole place is in tears. When he finds out he's the sucker does he cringe with embarrassment? No, he thinks it's brilliant and laughs as hard as anybody, really made his night. Entirely up to you Tikay.

That's a fascinating post.

It all makes perfect sense, though I don't agree with all of it.

Yes, I do care what people think, I always have. I cant help it, it is the way we are made, or it reflects how we were bought up. You are the opposite, you don't give a toss what others think, so sometimes you say outrageous things, & don't care when you get mocked. Both are perfectly valid minsets, just different.

When I went to the "Special School" as a kid, even as a dumb 7 year old, I was acutely embarrassed about it. "Everyone will think I'm stupid".

I was the last kid in my year, think I'd be 13 or something, who wore short trousers, & so I used to hide in the breaks as I was so embarrassed, as all the others had long trousers. That was over 50 years ago, & the memory still hurts.

As a teenager, I was embarrassed that I did not like alcohol, & preferred orange juice, & all the other lads ribbed me, so I started drinking, peer pressure & all that. Luckily I saw sense & quit when I was 21.

I could give you 20 or more other examples.  

It's in the genes I think, & is very hard to change.

Let me give you a weird story which demonstrates these peculiar mindsets which I don't seem to be able to control.

In my late twenties, I used to suffer terrible headaches & migraines, so I went to see the Doctor.  

He never even looked up, just asked me to explain what my problem was.

Repeated headaches, bla bla.

"What do you do for a living, do you worry much or get stressed out?" he asks.

He's still not looked up, or made eye contact.

"Yes, I do worry a lot, I worry about everything, & if I have nothing to worry about, I worry that I should be worrying about something".

He's still not looked at me.

"Well don't come to me, wasting my time with headaches, the cure is simple, quit worrying. Anything else I can help you with?"

It was the nearest I have ever come to punching someone in the face.

He was right, of course. Quit worrying, & the headaches disappear. But a worrier is a worrier, they can't help themselves. It's no different to arrogance, humility, lack of social skills, bad manners, upourownarseness, people who constantly belittle others on Social-Media, & a thousand other traits - it is not easy to change what we are.

So yeah, I do worry what others think, & I should not, but it is as hard as hell to change, especially at my age.    

Quite how those in the public eye cope with it I don't know. Roy Hodgson, David Moyes are great examples. Both decent human beings, & without exception, they have more knowledge about football in their small finger than their armchair critics, who have never had the ability to manage a major Football Team or in many cases manage anything, ever, except their bowel movements & bladder voids.

It's no different for golfers, jockeys, trainers, entertainers, whatever. Billy Public in his carpet slippers, posting anon, rips them to bits. How do those guys cope with it?

I saw Rory McIlroy described as a "complete clown" the day he imploded @ the US Masters. His critic was not even a Pro golfer, and had never been - & will never be - in such a pressure spot in his whole life. How these guys cope with such ridiculous criticism & rudeness is beyond me, & I'm well jealous of that ability, but I don't have it, & I doubt I ever will. The mind is a weird beast.

As a bonus from that story of the visit to my Doctor, I never again, not once in my life, visited a NHS GP. I do have a private quack I can access in emergencies, but apart from twice in the last 30 years, I've never troubled him. I expect I get the same aches pains & pimples as other generally healthy people, but that Doctor was like aversion therapy, so I don't do Doctors any more.

Interesting topic, or it is to me. Others will be yawning. All different, see?




The Romany word for embarrassment is 'ladge', and my old dad used to say, "It's only ladging if you're ladged". Which I suppose proves both points.
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« Reply #38648 on: June 26, 2014, 01:23:14 AM »

Yo, you are fascinated by how the mind works?

Check it out...when you cringe with embarrassment seeing your name at the bottom who is making you feel that way?

Let me tell you it is impossible for anybody to MAKE you feel that way. Your reaction and your mindset to anything is entirely up to you. Entirely up to you. Even if people are laughing and pointing, which they aren't, nobody can force you to feel embarrassed. Those feelings originate from you and the reason they exist is because you place far far too much weight on what others might think of you. I have told you this about a thousand times.

So fascinate about this, how does making yourself feel this way help, how does it help you enjoy experiences more, how does it help you play better? How does it help in any which way?

So why not free yourself from that baggage? It is simple to do. Just give yourself a break and simply don't care as much. The truth is there are several roadmaps to win a tournament and going from shortstack to winner is as valid as any. And they all carry equal embarrassment rating. It is entirely up to you.

Anyway, a few years ago I went to watch a variety show with some friends. Jim Davidson is first up and it's a packed house. He starts by saying there's a raffle for a five star holiday to Barbados and all of us have a ticket under our seat. He reads out the winning number and low and behold it's my mate Andy who wins. He is ecstatic, he jumps up into the air, he double-fist pumps and lets out a big scream before running to the stage to get his prize. I check my ticket and it's the same number, all my friends have the same number, everybody in the whole theatre has the same number. Unfortunately it's too late to stop Andy who is bounding down the aisle and jumping up on stage.

"I've never won anything in my life Jim" he screams from the stage. The whole place is in tears. When he finds out he's the sucker does he cringe with embarrassment? No, he thinks it's brilliant and laughs as hard as anybody, really made his night. Entirely up to you Tikay.

That's a fascinating post.

It all makes perfect sense, though I don't agree with all of it.

Yes, I do care what people think, I always have. I cant help it, it is the way we are made, or it reflects how we were bought up. You are the opposite, you don't give a toss what others think, so sometimes you say outrageous things, & don't care when you get mocked. Both are perfectly valid minsets, just different.

When I went to the "Special School" as a kid, even as a dumb 7 year old, I was acutely embarrassed about it. "Everyone will think I'm stupid".

I was the last kid in my year, think I'd be 13 or something, who wore short trousers, & so I used to hide in the breaks as I was so embarrassed, as all the others had long trousers. That was over 50 years ago, & the memory still hurts.

As a teenager, I was embarrassed that I did not like alcohol, & preferred orange juice, & all the other lads ribbed me, so I started drinking, peer pressure & all that. Luckily I saw sense & quit when I was 21.

I could give you 20 or more other examples.  

It's in the genes I think, & is very hard to change.

Let me give you a weird story which demonstrates these peculiar mindsets which I don't seem to be able to control.

In my late twenties, I used to suffer terrible headaches & migraines, so I went to see the Doctor.  

He never even looked up, just asked me to explain what my problem was.

Repeated headaches, bla bla.

"What do you do for a living, do you worry much or get stressed out?" he asks.

He's still not looked up, or made eye contact.

"Yes, I do worry a lot, I worry about everything, & if I have nothing to worry about, I worry that I should be worrying about something".

He's still not looked at me.

"Well don't come to me, wasting my time with headaches, the cure is simple, quit worrying. Anything else I can help you with?"

It was the nearest I have ever come to punching someone in the face.

He was right, of course. Quit worrying, & the headaches disappear. But a worrier is a worrier, they can't help themselves. It's no different to arrogance, humility, lack of social skills, bad manners, upourownarseness, people who constantly belittle others on Social-Media, & a thousand other traits - it is not easy to change what we are.

So yeah, I do worry what others think, & I should not, but it is as hard as hell to change, especially at my age.    

Quite how those in the public eye cope with it I don't know. Roy Hodgson, David Moyes are great examples. Both decent human beings, & without exception, they have more knowledge about football in their small finger than their armchair critics, who have never had the ability to manage a major Football Team or in many cases manage anything, ever, except their bowel movements & bladder voids.

It's no different for golfers, jockeys, trainers, entertainers, whatever. Billy Public in his carpet slippers, posting anon, rips them to bits. How do those guys cope with it?

I saw Rory McIlroy described as a "complete clown" the day he imploded @ the US Masters. His critic was not even a Pro golfer, and had never been - & will never be - in such a pressure spot in his whole life. How these guys cope with such ridiculous criticism & rudeness is beyond me, & I'm well jealous of that ability, but I don't have it, & I doubt I ever will. The mind is a weird beast.

As a bonus from that story of the visit to my Doctor, I never again, not once in my life, visited a NHS GP. I do have a private quack I can access in emergencies, but apart from twice in the last 30 years, I've never troubled him. I expect I get the same aches pains & pimples as other generally healthy people, but that Doctor was like aversion therapy, so I don't do Doctors any more.

Interesting topic, or it is to me. Others will be yawning. All different, see?




The Romany word for embarrassment is 'ladge', and my old dad used to say, "It's only ladging if you're ladged". Which I suppose proves both points.
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« Reply #38649 on: June 26, 2014, 01:37:16 AM »

Of course I care what people think of me Tony. But only about the weighty issues we encounter in life, the things that matter. And sure I could list 20 examples as well, such as I care if the people who know me think I'm honest, dependable, trustworthy. That I have good character, am hard-working, that I'm a good son, a solid friend. I could go on and on about the things that really matter.

However, I don't lump the things that matter in with the trivialities of life. And approach both with the same care & consideration. Do I care if people like the shirt I'm wearing, whether I'm too tall or too short, whether I drink orange juice or beer when I go out, how many chips I have in a poker comp? No cos the people who judge you on those things are shallow, and I really don't give a hoot about the fickle preferences of shallow people. Some blokes spend a fortune desperately rubbing hair foam into their heads because they worry about hair loss when really the people who judge you on the amount of hair on your head really aren't worth trying to impress.

It's hard to change? It's in the genes? What bollocks. You can train your mind to think any which way you want. You yourself advise people who take bad beats to heart to think about things in a different way, to look at the bigger picture. Why should they try and change the way they think? It's the way they were brought up right?

Anyways, Andy was not embarrassed in the slightest. If it wasn't for people like him the gag doesn't work & nobody laughs. He appreciates this and is happy to play his part, everybody has their part to play. Life is much richer and more fun that way. The part you play is short stack areshole hunter, so get cracking and enjoy it.
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« Reply #38650 on: June 26, 2014, 01:55:58 AM »

Of course I care what people think of me Tony. But only about the weighty issues we encounter in life, the things that matter. And sure I could list 20 examples as well, such as I care if the people who know me think I'm honest, dependable, trustworthy. That I have good character, am hard-working, that I'm a good son, a solid friend. I could go on and on about the things that really matter.

However, I don't lump the things that matter in with the trivialities of life. And approach both with the same care & consideration. Do I care if people like the shirt I'm wearing, whether I'm too tall or too short, whether I drink orange juice or beer when I go out, how many chips I have in a poker comp? No cos the people who judge you on those things are shallow, and I really don't give a hoot about the fickle preferences of shallow people. Some blokes spend a fortune desperately rubbing hair foam into their heads because they worry about hair loss when really the people who judge you on the amount of hair on your head really aren't worth trying to impress.

It's hard to change? It's in the genes? What bollocks. You can train your mind to think any which way you want. You yourself advise people who take bad beats to heart to think about things in a different way, to look at the bigger picture. Why should they try and change the way they think? It's the way they were brought up right?

Anyways, Andy was not embarrassed in the slightest. If it wasn't for people like him the gag doesn't work & nobody laughs. He appreciates this and is happy to play his part, everybody has their part to play. Life is much richer and more fun that way. The part you play is short stack areshole hunter, so get cracking and enjoy it.

Very good post.
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« Reply #38651 on: June 26, 2014, 03:53:01 AM »

Yes it's me rob , forgot u don't know my nickname as animal.  And yeh 8game , 3rd game is 25/25 NLH and the chips are flying in but not by me Smiley

Is it 10 posts before I can pm ?

Yo Rob,

Yeah, 10 Posts. Reply to this & you are nearly there. Wink

I've been asleep, but once I've freshened up, you'll receive a visit from a short stack arsehole hunter.

I bumped into Talal Shakerchi on the way down to the Cardroom earlier. Now he really is balla. He said Hi, as always, he is very polite.   

"Hi tikay"

"Hi, err, played much this year?"

"No, just played the Poker Player Championship so far".

Sheesh. That's $50,000, & I'm fretting about playing a $3k jobbie. 

Was going to ask him about the One Drop, he might fancy putting a short stack arsehole hunter in, but it seemed a tad forward, & I don't like to ladge myself. 

VERY interesting chap.
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« Reply #38652 on: June 26, 2014, 03:56:20 AM »

Yes it's me rob , forgot u don't know my nickname as animal.  And yeh 8game , 3rd game is 25/25 NLH and the chips are flying in but not by me Smiley

Is it 10 posts before I can pm ?

I just had a good read of your Blog. Excellent reading, if I may say so. Especially "My Top 8 Vegas Moments, 2013 - Part 7, Famous Blokes I met".

You must be quite a rare breed to make a living Online out of those daft games.

Feel free to reply, & that's your 10 Posts. Wink

Having watched you play, I can see why your alias is "Animal"......
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« Reply #38653 on: June 26, 2014, 05:19:44 AM »

I might as well be hung for a sheep.

In for the $3k as long as you cheer the fk up.

Never been more cheerful Ralph, but I just like to explain stuff "as I feel it", which I think is a good thing.

I've not had a good trip money-wise, so I'm bound to be a tad disappointed. But that apart, the trip is as good as any I've ever made.

I do apologise, I thought you said that you were sulking.

Anyway on to the next one.

Ha!

Well I did, yeah, but it was just a whimsical attempt @ humour.

Nobody will ever know my real feelings, but safe to say I keep things in perspective. Ryan must feel FAR worse after his horrible exit when he was in a Final with half a mill up top.   

Actually I feel fine.  Bar the what could have  been had I not lost to 3 outs, but I have zero regrets about day 3 and think I did all I could.

Unlike a few other deep runs where I know for certain that I misplayed hands/blew it (every time I play a GUKPT I just think about Walsall).

I'll get there again!

And just remember this run bad is sub 15 tournies, means nothing at all!

I'm pavilion white 141 tomorrow if you are around.
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« Reply #38654 on: June 26, 2014, 05:43:39 AM »

Talal is very good. Fearless online, hand reads as good as anyone, I'd way rather play 99% of people online than him.
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