KK - call an all-in?

[kinboshi]

This is being debated on the APAT forum after the question was raised  by ThinkerJE.  I thought I'd post it on here to get some more views.

First level of a deep-stack tournament with a decent blind structure.

You have KK. 

You don't know any of your opponents, and you have no idea how any of them play.

Someone raises to 200 (4xBB), you make a standard re-raise - they shove all-in making it 10,000 total.

Call or fold?

[The_duke]

This is my personal view -- but I would call. If it was just me and him, every time. If there was someone else in the pot maybe not...........

[AdamM]

I would be glaring at the player hoping to get a read. 1st level or not, they ought to be oozing information after 30 second stare down

unless I got a huge hint, likely hood is I'd be passing. too much chance of AA.

[Claw75]

I'm not passing

[Colchester Kev]

If it was Ironside, I would know he had Ace King and didnt have a clue how to play it if he missed a flop, so I call and pray the ace doesnt hit.

But I just cant put him on AA to make that over re raise in the first hand ... CALL CALL CALL.

[TheChipPrince]

Call...

[Longy]

I call, now i have never played an APAT event but im assuming the standard is kind of middling given this player is unknown. He has ak,qq often enough here to justify calling.

With knowledge of our opponent for example if it was AdamM i would find a pass.

[GlasgowBandit]

I call without any shadow.

[ripple11]

I passed KK early on in the last of the Blonde/Virgin challenge.....Sharky told me he had AA and I believed him!!

[kinboshi]

I call, now i have never played an APAT event but im assuming the standard is kind of middling given this player is unknown. He has ak,qq often enough here to justify calling.

With knowledge of our opponent for example if it was AdamM i would find a pass.

I'd say there are decent players, there are terrible players, and there are those in-between.   I think in this case you have no idea which they are.

[TightEnd]

If the player is unknown to you then I would call

If the player is known to be nitt-ish, pass

If the player is trading off a nit image and actually has AK, then good luck to him/her..pass

Walsall at the weekend..I have never seen a tighter first few hours!!

Standing of play in general in APATs is way higher than a year ago IMHO

[Robert HM]

I would be thinking he has JJ and doesn't want to see a flop.

If he had AA he ought to be milking you more rather than scaring you off.

Just my thoughts.

[tikay]

I call, & what will be will be.

I don't put someone who makes that huge overbet on AA, but they do that sometimes with AA on the off-chance of a caller with a Premium Pair or AK.

But even if he makes a standard re-pot, chances are it will all go in at some stage if the Board does not come with an A. So it comes to the same thing really.

[robyong]

FOLD and wait for a better opportunity with either more information or folding equity ( I folded KK in the Amsterdamn Masterclassics last year in same situation, ended up going out with 79s later on though!)

[NoflopsHomer]

If the player is unknown to you then I would call

If the player is known to be nitt-ish, pass

If the player is trading off a nit image and actually has AK, then good luck to him/her..pass

If the player is Tighty. INSTA-PASS, he's holding at least 5 aces in his hand.

Walsall at the weekend..I have never seen a tighter first few hours!!

Standing of play in general in APATs is way higher than a year ago IMHO

FYP