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chrisbruce
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« on: November 20, 2007, 01:39:07 PM »

We have been playing heads up for a while about 30 mins with a lot of pre flop raising and reraising. I started with $600 and Xing has recently rebought in for another $1000

The game is Pot Limit

I dont know how to get away from this hand but maybe thats why I enjoy but struggle at cash. any advise much appreciated.

In my defence I put him on an overpair to the board.


Dealt to Thegolfer [ ]
Xing raises to $20
The golfer re raises to $60
Xing calls $60
Flop [ ]
Xing checks
the golfer bets $120
Xing calls $120
turn []
Xing checks
thegolfer bets $360
Xing bets $856 and is all in
thegolfer: calls $496
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
xing: shows [ ] (A Full House, Sixes full of Fives)
thegolfer: shows [Ah ] (Two Pairs, Aces and Sixes, Five high)
xing collected $2071 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $2072 Main pot $2071 Rake $1
Board [ ]
Seat 1: xing (small blind) showed [ ] and won ($2071) with A Full House, Sixes full of Fives
Seat 2: thegolfer (big blind) showed [Ah ] and lost with Two Pairs, Aces and Sixes, Five high
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 01:48:42 PM »

I realy would need to see the entire HH before making a judgement on that..but yes I can get away from this quite easily if the betting suggest that he's got a 5 or 6
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 02:42:51 PM »

Oops sorry my cut and paste missed a bit. I have edited  it now.

Mostly I would like to know how it should have been played.

best I can offer is to check behind on the turn and call any river bet. the previous big pot we played this chap lost with A J on a jack high board when I turned the straight.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 02:52:36 PM »

he plays it well. but you have to think to yourself when he check raises all in on the turn he can't have a draw or an overpair. because he's only getting action if he's drawing dead then! AA is the only other hand than a 5 or 6 that would call him.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 02:54:59 PM »


It is difficult to make a decision on an action in Heads Up Cash based on the information from one hand - so much depends on the tendencies shown by an opponent over previous hands.

I am no HU expert, but the key bit of info for me is how light the opponent will get All In.

In this case, I think your bet on the turn is too big.
It is either a check, (probably my choice), or a smaller bet (half to 2/3 pot).

By betting as much as you did, you virtually take the option of bluffing away from him - i.e. you are pretty much committed.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 03:17:38 PM »

I am pretty poor at heads up, so take my advice with a pinch of salt.

I think preflop and the flop are pretty standard. I would actually check behind the turn on that card, it is WA/WB (way ahead/way behind) situation. In these situations pot control is important, then i would call most bets on the river trying to catch a bluff, or make a small value bet to extract value from a smaller overpair.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 03:55:14 PM »

It's always tricky play Aces HU and you were already screwed on the flop really and up untill the turn everything is standard and fine.
the turn, you bet big..too big IMO, there's no need for a full pot sized bet I think.. when he checkraises you are only beating a bluff.
On the turn I would be inclined to slow down. You're in position so you control the pot.

If you think/he has proven to stick all his money in on a complete bluff you can defend the call, I certainly don't expect anyone with an overpair to the board to checkraise me all-in here if he has me down as a decent HU player who might just have a 5 or 6 when in position.

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 04:12:45 PM »


By the way Chris, leave the result off next time - makes for more interesting analysis if we only have the same info as you had when you had to make your decisions.



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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 04:15:00 PM »

Should he not have position post flop?

Anyway check behind turn, call river bet or vb river if checked to you.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 05:28:44 PM »

Should he not have position post flop?

Anyway check behind turn, call river bet or vb river if checked to you.

yip. control pot size better here.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 06:49:34 PM »

In this situation, if op checks behind and villain pushes river do you ever call?
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 11:10:17 PM »

Yes I think controlling pot size is my best option here. to be fair to him I had been reraising his standard button raise a lot and he was probably making a stand and got lucky on flop.

Its that old but Ive got AA feeling, you wait so long for them, and getting action as well you feel they should give you a big payday.

tends to backfire.

Thanks for the insight
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