that old smoking thing again PLEASE VOTE. It's be nice to get Circa 500 votes

[Bongo]

My chest hurts, I went to the gym and was wheezing today.

Why? I played poker last night.

Does anyone have a reason why people should be able to smoke in a cardroom?

[redsimon]

I voted anti smoking but I guess your answer Bongo is "because they can" Most smokers are inconsiderate of others.

[AdamM]

no Bongo, no-one has come up with a good reason why smoking should be allowed in the card room. Sunday I coughed all night and tuesday I was actually sick in the night. I can't believe I used to pay £5 a pack to do that to myself.

[tikay]

At the risk of being considered "wet", & of going off-topic, the Post about petrol being hard to ignite troubles me greatly.

Diesel fuel "DERV" is almost impossible to ignite via a stay spark, or cigarette.

That is NOT the case with petroleum, "petrol" as we call it.

Petrol gives off vapour which IS highly inflammable. I think I'm duty bound to warn you that I consider the post that suggested otherwise to be incorrect. We don't need any accidents, & if there is doubt about which is right, please give me the benefit of the doubt. Petrol, via it's vapour, WILL ignite spontaneously, & easily. For once, I am being totally serious.

OK guys, you can have your smoking/no smoking thread back now. If you want to debate the petrol issue, please start a new thread.

[Harry Demetriou]

I struggled for years to give up smoking and I realise how difficult it is. I've also had close friends who've battled with Class A drugaddiction(and in most cases sadly lost) the two just don't compare.
you don't need medical assistance, or hypnotherapy, or helplines to give up smoking. you just need a determination not to put another one in your mouth. if you want it enough, you'll crack it. the same cannot be said about a drug like Heroin.

please Harry, lets not fall out about this. I have no wish to sadden you . I'm trying (and failing) to keep this thread on topic.

poker rooms, smoking

I'm not going to take anything personally or fall out with anyone and especially so over this subject.

I am a former smoker and over the course of time there will no doubt (hopefully) be less and less smokers.

The bottom line, however, is that for a smoker to give up they have to develop a mental determination that is so tough and strong that it will enable them to see off the demons in those early days and weeks so that as time passes they get over the cravings and kick the habit.

Unfortunately there is no real incentive for the govenement on this issue to assist smokers to give up.

Call me a cynic but if they put the time effort and money into it then they can prevent the next generation from taking up smoking in the first place by educating them at an early school level about everything related to cigarettes/drugs alcohol etc etc.

However there is a conflict of interests.

Less smokers = less revenue and they can't really afford that now can they?

Also less smokers mean better health and longevity of life which means a greater burden on the already overstretched and squandered pension funds.

On top of this it will cost jobs in the NHS and the tobacco induxtry not to mention all the funding various political parties get from the tobacco companies (any coincidence in Formula 1 being allowed to keep fag sponsorship longer than other sports?).

We live in a very sick world where governments and politicians continually lie to us about a multitude of things from going to war to what goes into our foods. They are fuelled by self intertest and the need or greed for money, more money and power and the general public have the wool pulled over their eyes and are the ones that suffer and pay for it all and they pay handsomely in both financial terms and their own health and lives.

As if that wasn't enough they sneak in laws about things like the terrorism act and then apply those laws to areas that were not intended to be covered (eg 82 year old outspoken men at party political conferences and women walking on cycle paths near sensitive ports).

And the UK is not alone in this as they stand side by side with (you guessed it) The USA in abusing our rights and freedoms (eg America introduced the ricoh statutes which were intended to combat organized crime but over the years they now apply it to any law broken that they see fit n ot to mention the extension of the Patriot Act and its powers).

Now there that's me on my hobby horse and now wildly off topic but it is all interelated in oine form or another.

In summary it's all a great conspiracy to manipulate and control us all and we are mere puppets playing and dancing to the tune of whatever current governement that we have and at the rate we are going there will be no freedom and democracy left all within a few years.

I call you all to arms...its time for a revolution...and I say off with their heads because they certainly have forgotten about representing the common man and ordinary people.

Ooops! who's that knocking at the door................................................................................

[snoopy1239]

 

[Royal Flush]

At the risk of being considered "wet", & of going off-topic, the Post about petrol being hard to ignite troubles me greatly.

Diesel fuel "DERV" is almost impossible to ignite via a stay spark, or cigarette.

That is NOT the case with petroleum, "petrol" as we call it.

Petrol gives off vapour which IS highly inflammable. I think I'm duty bound to warn you that I consider the post that suggested otherwise to be incorrect. We don't need any accidents, & if there is doubt about which is right, please give me the benefit of the doubt. Petrol, via it's vapour, WILL ignite spontaneously, & easily. For once, I am being totally serious.

OK guys, you can have your smoking/no smoking thread back now. If you want to debate the petrol issue, please start a new thread.

See i thought that but i wasn't sure, as i know with aviation fuel there are adatives to stop this happening, infact it's quite hard to light it.

[Ironside]

At the risk of being considered "wet", & of going off-topic, the Post about petrol being hard to ignite troubles me greatly.

Diesel fuel "DERV" is almost impossible to ignite via a stay spark, or cigarette.

That is NOT the case with petroleum, "petrol" as we call it.

Petrol gives off vapour which IS highly inflammable. I think I'm duty bound to warn you that I consider the post that suggested otherwise to be incorrect. We don't need any accidents, & if there is doubt about which is right, please give me the benefit of the doubt. Petrol, via it's vapour, WILL ignite spontaneously, & easily. For once, I am being totally serious.

OK guys, you can have your smoking/no smoking thread back now. If you want to debate the petrol issue, please start a new thread.

i already said that

[Ironside]

At the risk of being considered "wet", & of going off-topic, the Post about petrol being hard to ignite troubles me greatly.

Diesel fuel "DERV" is almost impossible to ignite via a stay spark, or cigarette.

That is NOT the case with petroleum, "petrol" as we call it.

Petrol gives off vapour which IS highly inflammable. I think I'm duty bound to warn you that I consider the post that suggested otherwise to be incorrect. We don't need any accidents, & if there is doubt about which is right, please give me the benefit of the doubt. Petrol, via it's vapour, WILL ignite spontaneously, & easily. For once, I am being totally serious.

OK guys, you can have your smoking/no smoking thread back now. If you want to debate the petrol issue, please start a new thread.

See i thought that but i wasn't sure, as i know with aviation fuel there are adatives to stop this happening, infact it's quite hard to light it.

thats why you dont find rioters using avaition feul in there petrol bombs

but in a fine vapour that a petorl bomb produces avaition feul would be flamable but not quite as flamable as good old fashioned unleaded

[tikay]

Aviation Fuel contains a "jel" that inhibits the release of vapour, hence it's vapour is less, but once th fuel itself ignites, it's no less flammable. That is, after all, why it's used.

Ok, back to smoking & no smoking........

[AwesomeAli]

There's a story about the smoking in public ban on bbc news online today.

Here's a linky for you....

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4379710.stm?display=1

Looks like it's been/being banned with the exception of places that DO NOT serve food    Unless I am reading it wrong.

Ali

[RED-DOG]

Ahh, Notts will be exempt then

[AwesomeAli]

Ahh, Notts will be exempt then

Ye, but that's a whole nother thread 

Ali

[Ironside]

in england private member clubs will also be exempt which means that all casinos will be able to have smoking away from the bar food being served or not

[ifm]

wow, look another biased poll.
it, like everything in life is not black and white.
How can you put forward a poll that has missed a complete mindset?
What if the "don't cares" added to the "don't ban it" outweighed the "ban it" in the poll?
Joke.
Harry D, you make a lot of sense mate.