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« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2007, 05:01:44 AM »

Anyone who wants my advice is more than welcome to pm me, l will warn u though l don't pussy foot around with my analysis of your game. I call a spade a spade! I like to think l adapt to the players l play in conjunction to the tables l sit down at, and one thing l'm not short off, is gears. I have just finished lessons on Omaha and Online play which l have found invaluable and most important of all, profitable. In February l was saying that LIVE was my game, now l don't!

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« Reply #61 on: December 19, 2007, 07:30:30 AM »

Anyone who wants my advice is more than welcome to pm me, l will warn u though l don't pussy foot around with my analysis of your game.



does this mean you criticise people? coaching cant turn into a power relationship. its much better to be guided and nurtured, not analysed without pussy footing:) good luck in getting a student:)  remeber not all people are cut out for mentorship and applying your own style to your student is not the best kind of development. You should focus on their style and help identify area for improvement in the general game:)
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« Reply #62 on: December 19, 2007, 08:21:15 AM »

Anyone who wants my advice is more than welcome to pm me, l will warn u though l don't pussy foot around with my analysis of your game.



does this mean you criticise people? coaching cant turn into a power relationship. its much better to be guided and nurtured, not analysed without pussy footing:) good luck in getting a student:)  remeber not all people are cut out for mentorship and applying your own style to your student is not the best kind of development. You should focus on their style and help identify area for improvement in the general game:)

Different people react better / worse to different kinds of teaching methods.

Some people need a nurturing approach, but it doesn't work for everyone.
I think the method above is from the Gordon Ramsay school of development - and apparently he run's a half decent canteen.

Probably more applicable to someone who has been playing a while and losing, than for a complete beginner.



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« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2007, 08:25:37 AM »

Anyone who wants my advice is more than welcome to pm me, l will warn u though l don't pussy foot around with my analysis of your game.



does this mean you criticise people? coaching cant turn into a power relationship. its much better to be guided and nurtured, not analysed without pussy footing:) good luck in getting a student:)  remeber not all people are cut out for mentorship and applying your own style to your student is not the best kind of development. You should focus on their style and help identify area for improvement in the general game:)

Different people react better / worse to different kinds of teaching methods.

Some people need a nurturing approach, but it doesn't work for everyone.
I think the method above is from the Gordon Ramsay school of development - and apparently he run's a half decent canteen.

Probably more applicable to someone who has been playing a while and losing, than for a complete beginner.





yes different strokes for different folks I guess but even the most experienced players think gordon ramsay is a pleb and all he produces is quivering wrecks. His is not about mentoring or coaching, his is about teaching. I dont think its got anything to do with experience, its about sytle and coaching should not be about power relationships and 'i know better' if you want that visit the PHA section Smiley Coaching/mentoring is about reflecting not about being told what to do a la ramsay stylee:)
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« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2007, 10:46:16 AM »

A good trial would be to compare a decent mentor with absolutely no poker knowledge against a highly skilled poker player with no teaching skills.

As an experiment, I am prepared to offer a few hours of my time to 1 person as a mentor, suggesting the following format:
  • Anyone interested PM's me a (brief!) summary of their situation
  • If more than 1 person applies, I will select one.  Whilst not particularly well known on this forum, it probably helps if you have met me/played with me/corresponded with me before, but isn't compulsory!
  • Depending on locality will influence what medium we use - in person, or via IM.
  • My time is provided f.o.c.
  • The mentee undertakes to update the forum with progress/hinderance made, whilst retaining the right to withold anything embarassing/detrimental to them.  Others can then have the opportunity to contribute/flame and I'm sure some would be curious as to how it develops.
  • At the end of the experiment, no obligation on either side to continue of course.

So...?

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« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2007, 11:51:12 AM »

Dan,

My live game has improved since going along to the duke's homegame every Wednesday nr Ellesmere port. Bit of a trek for you from Wrexham, but you are closer than me and I go every week.

Time at the tables can't be beaten, and then of course it's a friendly game so you get a lot of 'opinions' on how someone else would have played it.

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« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2007, 12:03:40 PM »

Dan,

My live game has improved since going along to the duke's homegame every Wednesday nr Ellesmere port. Bit of a trek for you from Wrexham, but you are closer than me and I go every week.

Time at the tables can't be beaten, and then of course it's a friendly game so you get a lot of 'opinions' on how someone else would have played it.

Advert over Wink

Hi Rich,

Next time you go up give me a shout mate its only 20 mins to E.Port from Wrexham i would defo be up for that i think a weekly home game with decent players would defo help me improve thumbs up
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« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2007, 12:09:09 PM »

i agree with tk ,your game mirrors your personality,i play tight and wait, this is how i feel comfortable playing, my son who started playing at the same time will play a lot more looser, he cringes watching me play some hands and i do the same when he plays, lol, it would be great if any players where willing to help and give there advice, idealy the teacher and learner should have roughly the same style, as a lot of moves in poker are not right or wrong but just a matter of style, ,a lot of great players have said they have never read a poker book in there lives and i have no doubt this is true but everyone is influenced by something they have been told or seen,i dont think it matters if you have read advice or just had the odd conversation with a very good player, but i think all players have to learnt to improve there game from some advice somewhere,even the best players in the world have a chat to eachother on how they played a certain hand, ,so if your lucky enough to bump into the right person in life who gives you great advice it can be life changing, i dont know if it is possible but rather than using the phone cant players im eachother while playing, would be a lot easier in my house i think,he he
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« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2007, 12:33:11 PM »

Dan,

My live game has improved since going along to the duke's homegame every Wednesday nr Ellesmere port. Bit of a trek for you from Wrexham, but you are closer than me and I go every week.

Time at the tables can't be beaten, and then of course it's a friendly game so you get a lot of 'opinions' on how someone else would have played it.

Advert over Wink

Hi Rich,

Next time you go up give me a shout mate its only 20 mins to E.Port from Wrexham i would defo be up for that i think a weekly home game with decent players would defo help me improve thumbs up

Better get a few more chairs put out Duke Cheesy
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