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« on: December 21, 2007, 07:01:43 PM »

this hand is one where i get caught with AK UTG missed the flop and tightend makes what seems like a stop n go
now although only 3 players get paid if i get to 6th i get an extra £200 in the league money and tightend knows this
as the railbirds are telling me not get involved as i can climb the ladder
i already knew this but didnt want the players to think that they could keep stealing from me and i would be laying down as
there was some nice money for top 3 that i wanted to play for aswell

now i made an instant call without looking at the board as i knew as soon as tighty called from bb they were going in regardless (the fact his clock nearly ran down preflop aswell made it look like he was planning a move

how bad was my instant call?



Game #4684526903: DTD Blonde League (ID6020348) $40+$4 - Hold'em NL (150/300) - 2007/12/20 - 22:05:17 (UK)
Table "6020348 - 1" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 1: Genegenie (5805 in chips)
Seat 2: anrikryst (4078 in chips)
Seat 3: Ironside (6968 in chips)
Seat 4: Neeko (5158 in chips)
Seat 6: HOLDoFOLD (4265 in chips)
Seat 7: Bluffer (15005 in chips)
Seat 9: ripple14 (8213 in chips)
Seat 10: BigTrules (6508 in chips)
Genegenie: posts the ante 25
anrikryst: posts the ante 25
Ironside: posts the ante 25
Neeko: posts the ante 25
HOLDoFOLD: posts the ante 25
Bluffer: posts the ante 25
ripple14: posts the ante 25
BigTrules: posts the ante 25
Genegenie: posts small blind 150
anrikryst: posts big blind 300
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Ironside [ Ah]
Ironside: raises to 900
Neeko: folds
HOLDoFOLD: folds
Bluffer: folds
ripple14: folds
BigTrules: folds
Genegenie: folds
anrikryst: calls 600
----- FLOP ----- [Two Diamonds ]
anrikryst: bets 3153 and is all-in
Ironside: calls 3153
----- TURN ----- [Two Diamonds ][]
----- RIVER ----- [Two Diamonds ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
anrikryst: shows [ ] (A Pair of Fours, Ten high)
Ironside: shows [ Ah] (High Card Ace)
anrikryst collected 8456 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 8456 Main pot 8456 Rake 0
Board [Two Diamonds ]
Seat 1: Genegenie (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: anrikryst (big blind) showed [ ] and won (8456) with A Pair of Fours, Ten high
Seat 3: Ironside showed [ Ah] and lost with High Card Ace
Seat 4: Neeko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: HOLDoFOLD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Bluffer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ripple14 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: BigTrules (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2007, 07:08:42 PM »

Given the described scenario, calling seems terrible here.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2007, 07:09:41 PM »

overplaying AK..........who would have thunk it
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2007, 07:21:03 PM »

Far too many chips, he looks like a scared small pair.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2007, 09:19:20 PM »

Stop n go's are very often a small pair type hand. You don't have odds against a hand like this, nowhere near. This is not an +EV play, Tighty has to have alot smaller stack than this for this to be close.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2007, 10:26:43 PM »

Given the described scenario, calling seems terrible here.

I'd agree with that..the call is pretty poor
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2007, 10:34:27 PM »

Both played the hand badly IMO
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2007, 10:41:14 PM »

Both played the hand badly IMO

I knew Ironside could not call unless he connected big, due to the technicalities of the points/prizes.

He's also LAG and esp so with pre-flop raising range so I downplayed the chances of an overpair to this flop a little

Any picture card on the flop and I probably wouldn't stop and go, as it was the texture looked ok enough for me to try it
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2007, 10:45:30 PM »

oh yeah, I was also the short-stack, all the more reason to try it

pushing pre, he calls with a wide range..by giving him a chance to miss the flop I think I have more F.E given the complications in the prizes
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