live to work, or work to live?

[madasahatstand]

I pay taxes too Ecosse, and I'm sure you will well realise on your massive wage, that it's always been the case that civil service salaries are well below comparable private sector jobs - the generous pension being the justification.  Some of us also take some level of pride in doing a job for the greater good rather than just doing our bit to 'generate wealth'

Yes, I might find my job boring, but I do believe it is 'worthwhile'.

Your taxes come from the wealth generating private sector, your top line 'gross wage' comes directly from MY pay packet.

Every single civil servant / public servant in the country is a drain on resources.

What really get's me is all the new labour non jobs, e.g. nappy co-ordinator, 5-a-day co-ordinator,  gay and lesbian liason officer. have a look at the Gaurdian job pages for even more Labour communist excesses.

Dougie.

So you think that the emergency services, hospitals etc are a waste of money?
fwiw I work for the civil/public service and my pension is less than 1/2 what claws is. My pay is nowhere near comparable to that ofthe same job in the private sector, which will pay 50% - 100% more.

And thats the whole argument right there. Pensions attract people to public sector work because the pay is terrible in comparison to the private sector. The government has been trying to turn this around and is not being so 'generous' with new employees. Thats because they need to pay the basic wage and treat women and men to equal pay. The very thought!:) The country is a joke. Reward greed and capitalism and scrimp on what keeps our nation healthy. Do you know that we have such a health inequalities gap in the UK because of capitalism? If you look at some of the richest countries in the world like the USA, the life expectancy in the most deprived communities is over 10-20 years less than in affluent areas. These trends have been assessed for decades and its clear that the 'haves' continue to live longer and the 'have nots' die younger. Now in wealthy countries like UK (inc Scotland:) ) and USA why is this? It's greed! The more you you make the wealth gap grow, the more this inequality will happen. So why the hell should public sector workers not have an incentive, like a pension, to attract them to jobs that keep the nations healthy and functioning? Anyway, they will likely cop it 10 years before their equivalent in the private sector, so it doesn't cost the taxpayer that much ......

As for your predicament Claire, I'd go to HR and tell them I'm not happy. They know they will get more mileage out of you if you are content in the workplace. I couldn't imagine getting out of bed every day to do a job that didn't get my juices flowing. The other option would be to look across to the private sector to see what comparable positions there are? It depends on whether its the job, the people or the environment? Maybe your workplace just isn't keeping the exciting pace of your home life?   Think about ways of spicing it up til you get a change

[boldie]

You haven't mentioned immigration yet, do you still want to send them all home before the crash into airports again?

I think all the immigrants should be loaded into giant cannons and fired at foreign airports, destroying them and preventing further immigrants from flying into the country.

brilliant!

Are you going first boldie? lol

this is me every morning.

[madasahatstand]

[Graham C]

No such thing as bonuses ? 
From The Times :-
IT’S not just the City high-flyers who are enjoying big bonuses. Senior civil servants are taking home up to £20,000 each in performance pay in a £120m bonus bonanza.
At HM Revenue & Customs, which recently lost two discs containing the details of 25m people, more than 350 top-grade staff are thought to have shared almost £2m, while bureaucrats at the Ministry of Defence have been given £44m and at the Treasury £21m.

Civil servants are also enjoying record pensions. Almost 3,700 have packages worth £1m or more, according to the Taxpayers’ Alliance.
/quote]

Not really anything to do with me, but I'm jumping in because my wife sort of does a similar role, but for the NHS. 

Anyway, do you realise how many people work in the civil service?  You're making it sound like they're all millionaires!    This is a such a small percentage of the number that they employ.

As you were,  morning all

[Mango99]

This seems to have gone pretty off-topic. To get it back on topic a bit, I'll just quickly say:

Go for it Claire! You might regret making the decision in the long-term, but you might not. Worth the gamble imo.

To use a cliche, I'd rather regret something I've done, than something I hadn't.

p.s. don't sue me if it all goes tits up!

[sledge13]

I left my job of 13 years at the age of 32 in 2005...I was a stores manager and on a good £25k whack, but it was 50+ hours a week in retail going to the same building every day including Saturdays....no one wanted to be there and trying to motivate 16-20 year olds on minimum wage was tough and depressing...I had split up with my girlfriend so was single with my own house and never thought I would do it...but I jacked! did a few part time jobs until I started poker full time in November 2006, best thing I ever did! not saying choose Poker but a change is good as anything imo!

Good luck with whatever you do....

[kinboshi]

No one's criticised professional poker players for their tax-dodging, parasitic, unproductive existence.

[sledge13]

Eh? just giving an example of changing your life....thought it would be helpful...

[matt674]

No one's criticised professional poker players for their tax-dodging, parasitic, unproductive existence.

probably because on Saturday the 20th January 2008 i am becoming one.........

[byronkincaid]

No one's criticised professional poker players for their tax-dodging, parasitic, unproductive existence.

providing the donks hard working tax payers with a bit of entertainment in their spare time

[kinboshi]

Eh? just giving an example of changing your life....thought it would be helpful...

Not you!  Was referring to the earlier posts!

[kinboshi]

No one's criticised professional poker players for their tax-dodging, parasitic, unproductive existence.

probably because on Saturday the 20th January 2008 i am becoming one.........

(parasite)

[kinboshi]

No one's criticised professional poker players for their tax-dodging, parasitic, unproductive existence.

pillaging the hard-earned (post-tax) wages of donks

FYP

[Newmanseye]

Claire for what its worth i would say you should stay with your employer and look for routes to change within the company, I have screwed myself out of more careers that I can count by changing direction and looking for more fulfillment.

Change from within takes longer but its safer and gives you the image of a bankable asset within the company.

N.B. there is a lot unsaid for secure but boring jobs, if its that boring, find your kicks outside work to balance it out.

[da_poker_monkey]

When I hit 31 I decided that I was bored with my job and I hated my boss so I did what most people spend there days thinking about and I told him to shove his job and left.  Since then I have not worked a day since, my credit is maxed out and I cannot find a decent job - whoops!  The grass always looks greener.