Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary

[Nakor]

Whatever you do, if you follow someones advice make sure they're a dietitian, not a nutritionist.  Oh and there's lots of advice on the web like byron said, a lot of it conflicting or focusing on the finer points.  Take it all with a pinch of salt (but not too much, of course)

I do a bit of work with the FSA (Food Standards Agency) and I think Kin's advice on using Dietician advice above Nutitionalist should be followed, unless you want to pay for a personal nutritionalist to follow you around all day - the standard thought on what nutrients are required for the "average" person are not that widely discredited, so unless you are overly active, looking for muscle repair, marathon training, fighting tooth decay etc etc etc just follow standard dietry GDA's.

It may be obvious but food is just fuel.  Depending on the quality of that fuel and how the engine is run, it will effect how the fuel is used.  The body unlike any car has the ability to store unused processed fuel.  One issue for the family unit is that all members of the family will not need the same level of nutrition, you may be active all day, person 2 may not be and the kids might be in school or out playing football 24/7 - all of this will require a different dietry need that is not usually provided by a shared family meal - it will result in some family members storing fuel and others not having enough.  This can be controlled by portion size if you all eat together every meal time, but providing a balanced diet for a diverse mix of people as family's usually are can be very difficult.

The 3 times a day question is one that has discussion value - interesting starting points below, but beware it is very fashionable for the Americans to challenge the norm in regards to Dietary requirements and they like to publish tests conducted on 4 people as medical fact;

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56254

http://www.enotalone.com/article/12912.html

Again common sense suggests somebody who is active over long periods of the day, who might work 6am - 6pm will need more fuel then TK sitting in front of a TV camera all day.  If the fuel you consume does not contain the energy you require in the first sitting then consume more, if you don't burn that fuel you will store it.

Eating behaviour is dictated by social norms and not necessarily by what your body needs, like sleep, exercise, light and loads of other stimulants its about finding whats right for you, and some education/knowledge will help you make the right decisions.

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Whatever you do, if you follow someones advice make sure they're a dietitian, not a nutritionist.  Oh and there's lots of advice on the web like byron said, a lot of it conflicting or focusing on the finer points.  Take it all with a pinch of salt (but not too much, of course)

I do a bit of work with the FSA (Food Standards Agency) and I think Kin's advice on using Dietician advice above Nutitionalist should be followed, unless you want to pay for a personal nutritionalist to follow you around all day - the standard thought on what nutrients are required for the "average" person are not that widely discredited, so unless you are overly active, looking for muscle repair, marathon training, fighting tooth decay etc etc etc just follow standard dietry GDA's.

It may be obvious but food is just fuel.  Depending on the quality of that fuel and how the engine is run, it will effect how the fuel is used.  The body unlike any car has the ability to store unused processed fuel.  One issue for the family unit is that all members of the family will not need the same level of nutrition, you may be active all day, person 2 may not be and the kids might be in school or out playing football 24/7 - all of this will require a different dietry need that is not usually provided by a shared family meal - it will result in some family members storing fuel and others not having enough.  This can be controlled by portion size if you all eat together every meal time, but providing a balanced diet for a diverse mix of people as family's usually are can be very difficult.

The 3 times a day question is one that has discussion value - interesting starting points below, but beware it is very fashionable for the Americans to challenge the norm in regards to Dietary requirements and they like to publish tests conducted on 4 people as medical fact;

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56254

http://www.enotalone.com/article/12912.html

Again common sense suggests somebody who is active over long periods of the day, who might work 6am - 6pm will need more fuel then TK sitting in front of a TV camera all day.  If the fuel you consume does not contain the energy you require in the first sitting then consume more, if you don't burn that fuel you will store it.

Eating behaviour is dictated by social norms and not necessarily by what your body needs, like sleep, exercise, light and loads of other stimulants its about finding whats right for you, and some education/knowledge will help you make the right decisions.

Great stuff Nak, thanks.

BTW- My car does have the ability to store unused processed fuel using a device called a "Petrol tank"

Sorry 

[Nakor]

Whatever you do, if you follow someones advice make sure they're a dietitian, not a nutritionist.  Oh and there's lots of advice on the web like byron said, a lot of it conflicting or focusing on the finer points.  Take it all with a pinch of salt (but not too much, of course)

I do a bit of work with the FSA (Food Standards Agency) and I think Kin's advice on using Dietician advice above Nutitionalist should be followed, unless you want to pay for a personal nutritionalist to follow you around all day - the standard thought on what nutrients are required for the "average" person are not that widely discredited, so unless you are overly active, looking for muscle repair, marathon training, fighting tooth decay etc etc etc just follow standard dietry GDA's.

It may be obvious but food is just fuel.  Depending on the quality of that fuel and how the engine is run, it will effect how the fuel is used.  The body unlike any car has the ability to store unused processed fuel.  One issue for the family unit is that all members of the family will not need the same level of nutrition, you may be active all day, person 2 may not be and the kids might be in school or out playing football 24/7 - all of this will require a different dietry need that is not usually provided by a shared family meal - it will result in some family members storing fuel and others not having enough.  This can be controlled by portion size if you all eat together every meal time, but providing a balanced diet for a diverse mix of people as family's usually are can be very difficult.

The 3 times a day question is one that has discussion value - interesting starting points below, but beware it is very fashionable for the Americans to challenge the norm in regards to Dietary requirements and they like to publish tests conducted on 4 people as medical fact;

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56254

http://www.enotalone.com/article/12912.html

Again common sense suggests somebody who is active over long periods of the day, who might work 6am - 6pm will need more fuel then TK sitting in front of a TV camera all day.  If the fuel you consume does not contain the energy you require in the first sitting then consume more, if you don't burn that fuel you will store it.

Eating behaviour is dictated by social norms and not necessarily by what your body needs, like sleep, exercise, light and loads of other stimulants its about finding whats right for you, and some education/knowledge will help you make the right decisions.

Great stuff Nak, thanks.

BTW- My car does have the ability to store unused processed fuel using a device called a "Petrol tank"

Sorry 

lol I think I was trying to suggest when in the tank its not been processed, my diesel bill each weeks suggests my car burns the fuel even if I am not moving - sadly my belly is testament to the fact this is not true in humans, maybe I need stop/start technology.

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They're back!

This time it's personal.....

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Saw a spider slipping and sliding about...

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My tiny palms are frozen.

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[tikay]

The Moles are back!

It's VERY cold Tom, leave them out a blanket, please.

PS - The ground must be like concrete, yet them there Moles still dig them there holes. Impressive, eh?

[tikay]

Whatever you do, if you follow someones advice make sure they're a dietitian, not a nutritionist.  Oh and there's lots of advice on the web like byron said, a lot of it conflicting or focusing on the finer points.  Take it all with a pinch of salt (but not too much, of course)

I do a bit of work with the FSA (Food Standards Agency) and I think Kin's advice on using Dietician advice above Nutitionalist should be followed, unless you want to pay for a personal nutritionalist to follow you around all day - the standard thought on what nutrients are required for the "average" person are not that widely discredited, so unless you are overly active, looking for muscle repair, marathon training, fighting tooth decay etc etc etc just follow standard dietry GDA's.

It may be obvious but food is just fuel.  Depending on the quality of that fuel and how the engine is run, it will effect how the fuel is used.  The body unlike any car has the ability to store unused processed fuel.  One issue for the family unit is that all members of the family will not need the same level of nutrition, you may be active all day, person 2 may not be and the kids might be in school or out playing football 24/7 - all of this will require a different dietry need that is not usually provided by a shared family meal - it will result in some family members storing fuel and others not having enough.  This can be controlled by portion size if you all eat together every meal time, but providing a balanced diet for a diverse mix of people as family's usually are can be very difficult.

The 3 times a day question is one that has discussion value - interesting starting points below, but beware it is very fashionable for the Americans to challenge the norm in regards to Dietary requirements and they like to publish tests conducted on 4 people as medical fact;

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56254

http://www.enotalone.com/article/12912.html

Again common sense suggests somebody who is active over long periods of the day, who might work 6am - 6pm will need more fuel then TK sitting in front of a TV camera all day.  If the fuel you consume does not contain the energy you require in the first sitting then consume more, if you don't burn that fuel you will store it.

Eating behaviour is dictated by social norms and not necessarily by what your body needs, like sleep, exercise, light and loads of other stimulants its about finding whats right for you, and some education/knowledge will help you make the right decisions.

Out of order!

In fact, you touched on a good point there.

I've been "working" from 8am until 2am most days. 8am until 6pm in the office, then either the TV Show, or play Online from 7pm until about 2am. It's starting to weigh on me a bit, & I'm getting too tired, too quickly, & thus grumpy & mentally "flat", so I've taken to having an afternoon nap, which seems to really help a lot.

I eat plenty, & good (a lot of fruit, grapes mainly) & for vitamin intake, M & S Mini Pork Pies. But I'm still getting tired, so I think this "eat well" is nonsense, really. Ish.

[tikay]

broscience used to be you had to eat 6 small meals a day to keep your metabolism revved up. now intermittent fasting is the cool thing to do, check out leangains.com. ain't no rocket surgery imo, eat enough whenever you like so you have some energy and enjoy your meals but don't eat so much that you get fat. there's a billion pages on the internet discussing the minutiae. 2+2, performance menu, crossfit, irongarm plus many others all have H&F forums that endlessly discuss nutrition. you could run searches for nutrient timing there

And it is as simple as that, everything else is tosh.

Dieting & "correct eating" is a whole industry now! It's still tosh, though.

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Yes, but my question wasn't about what, or how much you eat. it was about how often.

If for example you are going to eat 2000 calories, is it better to have:

A: One 2000 calorie meal.

B Three 666.666667 calorie meals.

C Ten 200 calorie meals.

[Nakor]

Yes, but my question wasn't about what, or how much you eat. it was about how often.

If for example you are going to eat 2000 calories, is it better to have:

A: One 2000 calorie meal.

B Three 666.666667 calorie meals.

C Ten 200 calorie meals.

No correct answer but one answer is;

As a species we have evolved to have the power to hunt and gather food as required, so I would suggest the answer is combination of all 3, with a tweak to B to 3 meals equaling 2000 calories.  The odds on you needing your energy in 3 equal amounts through the day are low so the three meals should represent this.

[byronkincaid]

Yes, but my question wasn't about what, or how much you eat. it was about how often.

If for example you are going to eat 2000 calories, is it better to have:

A: One 2000 calorie meal.

B Three 666.666667 calorie meals.

C Ten 200 calorie meals.

it doesn't matter! whatever works best for you

[tikay]

Yes, but my question wasn't about what, or how much you eat. it was about how often.

If for example you are going to eat 2000 calories, is it better to have:

A: One 2000 calorie meal.

B Three 666.666667 calorie meals.

C Ten 200 calorie meals.

it doesn't matter! whatever works best for you

100% - maybe more - this.

[GreekStein]

woulda said B or C.

Having one meal isn't as good for your body.

[david3103]

The times when I have been most sucessful in weight reduction mode the recommended practice was to eat little and often.

The GI diet appears to be accepted as the way forward and always features a certain element of snackery between the main meals.