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« Reply #22740 on: August 03, 2013, 09:43:52 AM »

I will be playing the Mini DS again today. Twice if necessary. Such a great comp.

Might come down for gigs and try and add to my 330k.  Sick
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« Reply #22741 on: August 03, 2013, 10:10:37 AM »

Morning Mr Red.

With all that negative talk about dogs on another thread I thought I would share this little snippet with you.

I take part in a lot of psychology experiments at the university, many of which are dull but sometimes an interesting one comes along. The latest study consisted of looking at various pictures on a computer screen for 20 minutes. Nothing interesting happened during it but in the debrief afterwards they told me the following. Whilst looking at the pictures they were using software to track the movements of my eyes to see how I looked at the pictures. They then told me they had done similar tests with animals and found that dogs look at a human face in almost exactly the same way we do, more than any other animal. How cool is that!

It was only on reflection afterwards that I thought of 2 questions I would have liked to ask. Have they tested dolphins, or wolves?
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« Reply #22742 on: August 03, 2013, 10:12:51 AM »

See you there Tom.




Might come down for gigs and try and add to my 330k.  Sick



See you there guys.

Don't mess with me.

I know karate, tae kwon do, kung fu, jujitsu, and loads of other dangerous words.
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« Reply #22743 on: August 03, 2013, 10:20:14 AM »

See you there Tom.




Might come down for gigs and try and add to my 330k.  Sick



See you there guys.

Don't mess with me.

I know karate, tae kwon do, kung fu, jujitsu, and loads of other dangerous words.

I thought you were going to play this yesterday? Did you change your mind?
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« Reply #22744 on: August 03, 2013, 10:35:41 AM »

Morning Mr Red.

With all that negative talk about dogs on another thread I thought I would share this little snippet with you.

I take part in a lot of psychology experiments at the university, many of which are dull but sometimes an interesting one comes along. The latest study consisted of looking at various pictures on a computer screen for 20 minutes. Nothing interesting happened during it but in the debrief afterwards they told me the following. Whilst looking at the pictures they were using software to track the movements of my eyes to see how I looked at the pictures. They then told me they had done similar tests with animals and found that dogs look at a human face in almost exactly the same way we do, more than any other animal. How cool is that!

It was only on reflection afterwards that I thought of 2 questions I would have liked to ask. Have they tested dolphins, or wolves?


Eye contact is a huge thing with dogs.

Assuming your dog sees you as the Alpha male, (Which of course all dogs should do) he will watch you all the time, but he will be very careful about making prolonged eye contact, especially if you are eating or interacting with another family member. (Who, BTW, he should also be subservient to.)

If, on the other hand, you are interacting with him, he will feel comfortable looking directly at you.

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« Reply #22745 on: August 03, 2013, 10:36:18 AM »

See you there Tom.




Might come down for gigs and try and add to my 330k.  Sick



See you there guys.

Don't mess with me.

I know karate, tae kwon do, kung fu, jujitsu, and loads of other dangerous words.

I thought you were going to play this yesterday? Did you change your mind?

That was a practice run.
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« Reply #22746 on: August 03, 2013, 10:39:46 AM »


What are these?

The pic shows back and front views, the knife is there for scale.



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I know what these are now, Redsgirl told me.

I'm surprised you kidz & IT types haven't got this yet.
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« Reply #22747 on: August 03, 2013, 11:30:59 AM »

Kidz only interest is their phone so they must finger/thumb  styluses/styli
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« Reply #22748 on: August 03, 2013, 11:42:36 AM »


Kidz only interest is their phone so they must finger/thumb  styluses/styli



Correctamundo!



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« Reply #22749 on: August 04, 2013, 02:44:00 PM »

Yesterday I shared a cash table with Rastafish.

Now I know I'm sometimes prone to a little exaggeration, but not in this case.

I swear to God he described the closing stages of the Monte Carlo blow by blow, naming every card played, every flop, turn and river, every bet, and all the conversation from 16 players remaining until the point when he won the very last hand.

He also told us his thought processes at every stage and what he imagined the thought processes of his opponents to be.

Just in case this wasn't enough information, he formed himself into a one man repertory company, simultaneously playing the roles of himself and all 15 of the other players, doing all the voices and everything. He even went to the extent of shaking hands with himself, congratulating himself, and leaving the table when playing the part of someone he had busted.

It was truly fascinating. An experience I will never forget, no matter how hard I try.  Wink


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« Reply #22750 on: August 04, 2013, 06:51:56 PM »


If a dog gets woken up while its having a dream, do you think it knows it was dreaming?  Or is everything just reality in the dog world?
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« Reply #22751 on: August 05, 2013, 08:14:29 AM »


If a dog gets woken up while its having a dream, do you think it knows it was dreaming?  Or is everything just reality in the dog world?


Dogs don't actually think. Well, not in a logical, linear fashion. What they do is more like reacting to situations using instinct, memory and conditioning/training as a guide.

If they come across a situation that they have no experience of, instinct takes over. The next time that situation occurs, they use instinct combined with experience.

So to answer your question, if, from the dogs point of view, something happened, like chasing a cat, eating a pie or biting the postman, and these actions had no consequences so long as they were terminated by waking up in bed, then yes, on that level, the dog would kind of realise it had been having an adventure in that other place where things don't matter.

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« Reply #22752 on: August 05, 2013, 08:20:20 AM »

Morning Mr Red.

With all that negative talk about dogs on another thread I thought I would share this little snippet with you.

I take part in a lot of psychology experiments at the university, many of which are dull but sometimes an interesting one comes along. The latest study consisted of looking at various pictures on a computer screen for 20 minutes. Nothing interesting happened during it but in the debrief afterwards they told me the following. Whilst looking at the pictures they were using software to track the movements of my eyes to see how I looked at the pictures. They then told me they had done similar tests with animals and found that dogs look at a human face in almost exactly the same way we do, more than any other animal. How cool is that!

It was only on reflection afterwards that I thought of 2 questions I would have liked to ask. Have they tested dolphins, or wolves?


Eye contact is a huge thing with dogs.

Assuming your dog sees you as the Alpha male, (Which of course all dogs should do) he will watch you all the time, but he will be very careful about making prolonged eye contact, especially if you are eating or interacting with another family member.
(Who, BTW, he should also be subservient to.)

If, on the other hand, you are interacting with him, he will feel comfortable looking directly at you.



Morning Tom.

I've been thinking about that Post since the moment I saw it.

I understand the Alpha male stuff, but could you explain in more detail the parts I have italicised, & especially the enboldened part, please?

Why is extra care needed when we are interacting with another family member?

Not really connected, but as a kid, I remember my first dog, & I often stared her down, knowing it seemed to make her uncomfortable. I don't know why I still did it, but I did. Kids do weird things.  
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« Reply #22753 on: August 05, 2013, 08:51:22 AM »


It's great having grandchildren around to fill the void that my own kids left when when time dragged them stumbling into adulthood.

Children see the world differently than we do, but if you keep your eyes  open when they're around, you can sometimes glimpse the magic that they see.

I walk down the lane most mornings to check the mail box. About halfway down, among all the random stones that make up the road surface, there is, apparently, a small symmetrical one.

I can't say I've never noticed it, until now that is.



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« Reply #22754 on: August 05, 2013, 09:30:09 AM »

Morning Mr Red.

With all that negative talk about dogs on another thread I thought I would share this little snippet with you.

I take part in a lot of psychology experiments at the university, many of which are dull but sometimes an interesting one comes along. The latest study consisted of looking at various pictures on a computer screen for 20 minutes. Nothing interesting happened during it but in the debrief afterwards they told me the following. Whilst looking at the pictures they were using software to track the movements of my eyes to see how I looked at the pictures. They then told me they had done similar tests with animals and found that dogs look at a human face in almost exactly the same way we do, more than any other animal. How cool is that!

It was only on reflection afterwards that I thought of 2 questions I would have liked to ask. Have they tested dolphins, or wolves?


Eye contact is a huge thing with dogs.

Assuming your dog sees you as the Alpha male, (Which of course all dogs should do) he will watch you all the time, but he will be very careful about making prolonged eye contact, especially if you are eating or interacting with another family member.
(Who, BTW, he should also be subservient to.)

If, on the other hand, you are interacting with him, he will feel comfortable looking directly at you.



Morning Tom.

I've been thinking about that Post since the moment I saw it.

I understand the Alpha male stuff, but could you explain in more detail the parts I have italicised, & especially the enboldened part, please?

Why is extra care needed when we are interacting with another family member?

Not really connected, but as a kid, I remember my first dog, & I often stared her down, knowing it seemed to make her uncomfortable. I don't know why I still did it, but I did. Kids do weird things.  


Morning Tony.

Dogs are pack animals and the eye contact thing is just bog standard pack behaviour.

In the wild every dog in the pack will know his place in the pecking order. The Alpha male can and will assert his dominance by staring down any other pack member. The lower ranking dog must acknowledge this by averting his gaze, or face the consequences.

Dog B can stare at dog C and all the other dogs except dog A and so on.

When a higher ranking dog is eating he is even more tetchy about his status than usual, the same applies when two higher ranking dogs are indulging in any kind of mating or bonding ritual.

A well brought up family pet dog should consider himself out ranked by all the other (human) family members and behave accordingly.


In some situations, especially when you are interacting with your dog, perhaps petting or training him, the eye contact rule is relaxed, as it would be in the wild during bonding sessions, while at play or when hunting.
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