Situation and choice...

[Bainn]

I was railing someone tonight playing a MTT, it is about 6 mins into the game, starting stacks are 2000 and blinds 10/20 and this hand came up -


***** Hand 969145634 *****
10.00/20.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 24 February 2008 18:36:45
-------- ------ (Real/Tournament)
Seat 1: trout333 (2000.00)
Seat 2: TopGun142 (1990.00)
Seat 3: Gaz1071 (1970.00)
Seat 4: Discord (2020.00)
Seat 5: ace-hitter (1920.00)
Seat 6: Wils14 (1960.00)
Seat 7: Tingate257 (2000.00)
Seat 8: vava316 (2010.00)
Seat 9: metz 13 (2000.00)
Seat 10: spexs (2130.00)
vava316 post SB 10.00
metz 13 post BB 20.00
** Deal **
trout333 [N/A, N/A]
TopGun142 [N/A, N/A]
Gaz1071 [N/A, N/A]
Discord [, ]
ace-hitter [N/A, N/A]
Wils14 [N/A, N/A]
Tingate257 [N/A, N/A]
vava316 [N/A, N/A]
metz 13 [N/A, N/A]
spexs [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
spexs Fold
trout333 Fold
TopGun142 Fold
Gaz1071 Fold
Discord Raise to 60.00
ace-hitter Call 60.00
Wils14 Fold
Tingate257 Call 60.00
vava316 Fold
metz 13 Fold
*** Flop(Board): *** : [, , ]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
Discord Bet 250.00
ace-hitter Fold
Tingate257 All-in 1940.00


So, what would you have done ?  Call the all-in or fold ?

[totalise]

My decision would be that in order to accumulate enough chips to make a deep progression in this tournament, I would be willing to commit my stack with top two pair in this situation, therefore I call.

[Bainn]

Would you fear the all-in player had Trip Kings or Trip Queens ?

[LOJ]

Screams trips or a flush draw.  Fold

[totalise]

Would you fear the all-in player had Trip Kings or Trip Queens ?

nope, of course they might have that, but you have top 2, on a drawy board, and people just play bad early on.

[byronkincaid]

Wow, surprising to me how much equity we have even against a really tight range

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    57.321%     47.17%    10.15%              8872         1910.00   { KsQh }
Hand 1:    42.679%     32.53%    10.15%              6118         1910.00   { KK-QQ, 33, AKs, AsJs, KQs, JsTs, AKo, KQo }

[Royal Flush]

This is just retarded.

It amounts to baiting, ban the OP

[totalise]

This is just retarded.

It amounts to baiting, ban the OP

cmon flushy   show at least a modicum of respect!

[kinboshi]

Usually facing the flush draw - so I call.  A set is less likely, but them's the breaks.

In fact, I had the same hand in a different situation in a cash game on Friday night.  I think I misplayed it, might post it up for analysis...

[Ironside]

easy call

there will be another comp along in a minute if he does have me beat which isnt often

[AlexMartin]

WTF? Call. Why? Coz i like money. Ill even let him have 33 50% of the time.

[Bainn]

This is just retarded.

It amounts to baiting, ban the OP

Nice to see you are your normal calm, caring and diplomatic self Jim.

I posted this hand to get a consensus of opinion regarding the hand in question as the person playing it folded, I said to them I would have called. I believed that the members of Blonde would provide decent explanantions as to why to call or why to fold in this situation, maybe making their thoughts clearer than I did to the actual player.

And as usual, the Blondes who have replied have done so with their usual help, except for you.

If the question if beneath your obvious great skill level and it is simply not worth your time, then do me and yourself a favour, DO NOT POST.

[TightEnd]

to be fair, Flushy probably thought it was a wind up post. I wondered before I looked at the replies to be frank!

even allowing for the direct and undiplomatic way he asked whether it was a wind up. Hopefully you two can kiss and make up.Please!

It's an immediate call even from me. A set shouldn't be pushing in, will be interested in maximising value. At most levels the range is so big (flush draw, top pair etc, straight draw, combination draw etc) that it really is a quick call

[Bainn]

to be fair, Flushy probably thought it was a wind up post. I wondered before I looked at the replies to be frank!

even allowing for the direct and undiplomatic way he asked whether it was a wind up. Hopefully you two can kiss and make up.Please!

It's an immediate call even from me. A set shouldn't be pushing in, will be interested in maximising value. At most levels the range is so big (flush draw, top pair etc, straight draw, combination draw etc) that it really is a quick call

May I ask why one would naturally assume it is a "Wind up" post ?  Especially as I believe it is probally my first post in this section, some players are still relatively new to our game in comparison and even though it is an instant call from me, I felt my explanation may have been lacking.  I looked to my fellow Blondes to maybe explain it better than I, and they have kindly helped for which I thank them.

Jim and I "Kissing", you get better odds to win the Euro Millions, Jim and I making up ?  About the same odds....

[TightEnd]

I didn't naturally think it was a wind up post, I said I wondered before I looked at the replies because, to me, it seemed such an open and shut case of "call"

as it isn't, I suppose I should apologise for wondering if it was a wind up

glad you got some good replies, hopefully including the second half of my first post

don't let the rest of it put you off

can I stop digging now sir?