Who's Right?

[Laxie]

For this one, chip counts don't matter a toss.

SB
BB
Fold
Fold
'Raise' to blah blah...make em up as ya like, but treble the blinds was the raise.
Fold
Fold
This guy says 'Raise' and trebles the original 'raise' bet to 9 times the blinds
Fold

Original raising guy calls the extra, but isn't happy.  Says second guy should have said 're-raise', but being a 'friendly' game for only €10 buy in, he got no back up to his argument.   

Second guy wins the pot when all is said and done.

When the hand is over, original raising dude gets his knickers in a twist because second guy only said 'raise' and not 're-raise'  He reckons the other guy's play was only a call first day.

Discuss.............. 

[Royal Flush]

First guy is an angle shooting cheat, or just retarded.

Raise stands.

[AndrewT]

Original raising guy calls the extra, but isn't happy.  Says second guy should have said 're-raise',

He is a pedantic prick and should be bounced out of the game.

[snoopy1239]

Raise would stand in any cardroom I've been to, so he doesn't have much of a leg to stand on unless he writes the house rules. He's angleshooting, raise is a raise, whether it's a raise, re-raise or re-re-re-re-re raise, still a raise. Should I start saying re-fold if someone's folded before me just to make sure?

[M3boy]

Laxie, look at this situation.

Someone has raised infront of you, but you do not see it.

Action on you and you announce "raise" - you MUST now make a raise over the initial raise that you have missed.

Saying "re raise" is not necessary

[Laxie]

For the record, I sided with the second guy who only managed to say 'raise' and I was attacked for doing so.  They know I'm stuck in with a poker forum and I was asked to defend my decision...without letting on how I had ruled.  Cheers lads!  Can't wait to show them the print out...pack of feckers!

[Rookie (Rodney)]

They are idiots if they actually believe what they are saying!

[JungleCat03]

If you took this to the logical conclusion, then someone putting in a 4th raise (uncommon but it happens) would be saying "I re-re-re-raise." It would be redonkulous having to announce this so feel free to stick your thumb on the end of your nose, wiggle fingers and say nah nah na nah nah in traditional victorious fashion as you are right.

Any other interpretation is just re-re-re-tarded.

[mondatoo]

If you took this to the logical conclusion, then someone putting in a 4th raise (uncommon but it happens) would be saying "I re-re-re-raise." It would be redonkulous having to announce this so feel free to stick your thumb on the end of your nose, wiggle fingers and say nah nah na nah nah in traditional victorious fashion as you are right.

Any other interpretation is just re-re-re-tarded.

lol think u summed it up that is crazy tho a raise is a raise whether sum1 i front of u has already raised or not some ppl just love to be awkward (or btter)

[Graham C]

LOL would like to see their faces on seeing the print outs

First guy is an angle shooting cheat, or just retarded.

He is a pedantic prick and should be bounced out of the game.

They are idiots if they actually believe what they are saying!

Can't wait to show them the print out...pack of feckers!

Just show the summary

[NoflopsHomer]

The OR should be moved next to the short stack as punishment.

[boldie]

LOL would like to see their faces on seeing the print outs

First guy is an angle shooting cheat, or just retarded.

He is a pedantic prick and should be bounced out of the game.

They are idiots if they actually believe what they are saying!

Can't wait to show them the print out...pack of feckers!

Just show the summary

I agree with all of the above...The little boy (it can't have been a grown man being soo pedantic) that complained should never be allowed near a pack of cards again.

[Bigfella]

Laxie you can tell them that Bigfella confirms the word "raise" is acceptable in that situation. That should put an end to any doubters.

As you can tell I'm bored...

[kinboshi]

Re-re-raise, when the crowd says bo selector.

[kinboshi]

As far as I'm aware you don't even have say 'raise'.  If someone bets 5, and someone raises to 15, you are within your rights to say "50" which means the same as "raise 50".

Although if someone says that I guess it's ambiguous, as it could mean raise to 50, or raise another 50 on top.  What's the ruling there, or is it a case of waiting for the player to stick the chips in and clarify what they mean?  I'd 'assume' it means raise to 50, but what's correct here?